j. f. Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Would be very interested to know what size paper you contact print 8/10 negatives on. Do you use 8/10 paper, print with a border or not, or even print the image centered on a larger sheet, e.g. 8/10 centered on 9.5/12 paper? I ask this because I'm trying to decide what size contact print frame to get, they come in different sizes: 8/10, 10/12, 11/14. The best quality/value seems those sold by Bostick and Sullivan: http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/cart/home.php?cat=38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio_ortega7 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I've used both 8x10 and 11x14 paper sizes for contact printing 8x10 negatives, depending on what I had on hand at the time. It's obviously more expensive to use the larger sizes, but the larger sheets allow more latitude with borders and don't require such precise registration when joining the negative with the printing paper. However, if you are only contact printing using normal silver B&W enlarging papers you will not need a traditional contact print frame. A simple heavy sheet of glass (1/4" is good) placed directly on top of the negative/paper is sufficient to keep both in perfect registration during the short exposure time. And a simple sheet of glass is much easier to set up than a contact print frame. Most people don't realize that traditional hinged-back contact printing frames, while very pretty and nostalgic, are only necessary when using many of the alternative printing materials, like platinum/palladium. These materials allow periodic inspection of the image while it is forming on the print surface during the much longer exposure times. The hinged back on the frame allows the exposure to be interrupted, the negative and paper to be separated for inspection of the print on one side, while not disturbing the registration of the overall print when continuing the exposure. Projection speed B&W enlarging papers do not form the image on the paper until it is placed in the developer solution after the exposure is complete. These papers do not require the use of the more complicated and expensive hinged-back traditional contact print frame since there is no need to inspect the print during the exposure process. Of course, if you like the look and feel of a contact print frame, and don't mind spending the money, then using one when contact printing with regular enlarging papers is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecahn Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I prefer to print on 11x14 paper, and leave the big black border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_schwartz6 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 You might also take a look at the frames made by Lotus View Cameras -- an Austrian company that makes very fine cameras and accessories. I have an 8X10 frame that is a masterpiece of fine woodworking...if that type of thing matters to you. Expensive, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. f. Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share Posted April 2, 2008 Yes, The Lotus frame does look very well made and pleasing to the eye! Thanks for the link and all the advice. Still trying to decide what size frame to get though, and wondering what others use for 8/10. Seems that an 8/10 frame would be too small because some papers are not made in this size and I couldn't have any real border around the image. Having said this Azo comes in this size. A 10/12 frame would allow a border around the negative and a wider choice of papers. I'm was leaning towards this size frame. But then I find out that some papers only come in either 8/10 or 11/14. (http://www.bergger.com/inter/neutral.html). Seems that if I wish to keep the paper options open without having to cut them down to size myself, perhaps a frame that covers the largest sheet (11/14) would be best. But maybe this would make centering the negative on a smaller sheet more difficult, which would suggest a frame should be dedicated to a certain paper size. Decisions, decisions...perhaps all I need is a heavy sheet of glass until I have my presentation sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_brake1 Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 8x10 works great. As for contact frames, if you have an old local camera store see what they have laying around. I just picked one up for ten bucks. Essentially a hinged piece of heavy glass laying on to a rigid back with a thin foam cushion. The 8x10 size was extremely common when making 35mm negs into a contact sheet. They are plentiful in the used departments. And as mentioned above, up to 8x10 works great in a simple heavy glass frame. Above that you probably want to think about vacuum frames and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. f. Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 Thanks again for all the comments. Went for the Bostick and Sullivan 11/14 in the end. Very good value for money, very well made too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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