chrisrichards Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'm buying a Kiev 60 from Arax, and will be using it mainly for portaits. The choice of short to medium teles seems to be: Biometar or Vega 120, Kaleinar 150 or Sonnar 180. I'd like a lens that's sharp at least by f4, and also I like to take portraits hand held. I'd appreciate the recommendations of people who have used these lenses. I only shoot Black and White. Thanks ! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulrik Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Sonnar 2,8/180. Aperture of 2,8 allows very selective focus, focal length 180 allows nice working distance even for tight portraits, sharpness is fine. Ulrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Naka Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 It also depends on how tight the shot will be. Tight head shot, head and shoulders, upper body? How much room do you have to backup, if you have room you can use a longer lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Those f/2.8 teles are monsters, big and heavy... <p> Any of the lenses you mentioned will be fine. Some (or some versions) may not focus close enough for tight headshots, but this can easily remedied by using a short extension ring. But for portraiture even the mundane 80mm f/2.8 standard lens is sufficient if the subject is cooperative. <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/bboard-uploads//00Gbca-30060084.jpg" hspace="5" vspace="10"> <br><b> Kiev 60, Volna-3 80mm f/2.8 MC, Astia 100 (RAP) </b></center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrichards Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 The Sonnar looks pretty big and heavy - can you use it hand held, or does it really need to sit on a tripod ? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeg Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 It can be used hand-held (best with fast shutter speeds), but the camera doesn't balance very well (it's very front-heavy due to the big glass). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari v Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Sonnar 180/2.8 is great but really a beast to carry. I just came back shooting with it handheld, so yes, it doesn't *need* a tripod but it wouldn't hurt either. Depends on how much you work out. ;) Biometar 120/2.8 on the other hand is not that much heavier and bigger than your normal 80mm, quite light for what it is actually. Mine is a bit "dreamy" wide open (that is to say soft in a good way) but it sharpens when stopped down even one stop. I don't know about Kaleinars and Vegas, I've heard they're fine but as I happened to find Zeiss Jena stuff (above mentioned + 50/4) next to nothing I went there. I have the Arsat 80/2.8 which seems sharp enough for me (it's not easy to make actually bad standard lens...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan_de_groote Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I mostly use the biometar 120/2.8 because I don't have the room inside to use the 180. Handheld the 120 wins as well. My 120 is sharp enough at 2.8 if I focus properly. Both are easy to find and reasonably priced. As for weight, the 180 puts 1.4kg on the scale the 120 is only 0.55kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papy_g1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I didn't shoot enough with them to talk about sharpness or anything, but I have here a Vega 90/2,8 and Vega 120/2,8, (although in Kiev 88 mount), and as monsters, they are only 350g and 450g weight. The 90 is nice for very close portraits, personally, I don't like too long lenses for portraits, because they look too flat to my eyes, and technically, because I usually take real-life portraits, at home. I would not recommend Kaleinar for handheld, nor Sonar 180, not only for their weight, but for their lenght, wich both combines for uncomfortable use on a eye-level SLR. If you have had a P6-K88, or are confident on your fingers' strenght, go for the big ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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