nachi_abrams Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 i just bought a 40D on Sunday. Indoors, with the flash, the photographs come out exquisite. Outdoors, the imaqes are terrible. They come out looking like I used a cheap camera. I shoot with a 50 1.8 lens. Mostly shooting manual shutter speed at 200, aperture 11, iso 100. Of course, I make sure the exposure is correct. I also shoot on AV and TV depending on what I wish to achieve. I do make sure that my lens is stopped down enough to achieve depth of field and clarity. Do you think the camera is defective? I certainly would be no difficulty to return it at this point. I have two weeks. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g dan mitchell Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Samples would help... Without seeing what you are talking about we're all guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall4 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 We will need some samples here. You shot indoors with the built in flash and they look Exquisite? Please post samples of that too. What do you think is terrible about the photos. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 "They come out looking like I used a cheap camera." _ I've used cheap cameras that take great pix. This tells us nothing. What's wrong w/the pix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall4 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I think I see a pattern here. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00NNx3 Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachi_abrams Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 Interestingly enough, I was going to make reference to that in my original question, but I thought it would be too long winded. I had a rebel XT for two years with the exact opposite problem. Outdoors it took exquisite pictures. Indoors it left alot to be desired. I am sure losing confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 DO you have another lens? maybe try it mounted on a tripod and do some tests in and out with correct exposure. Its really hard to give any advice with out knowing anything objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachi_abrams Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 I also used a canon 17-85IS on this 40D. Worse results. I do not want to use a tripod because I always shoot handheld. In order for me to keep the camera, it has to work for me handheld. I cannot run around shooting parties and events with a tripod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Still waiting on those samples.....but I suspect motion blur..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g dan mitchell Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 NACHI, are you getting what we're saying here? No one can give you any useful and objective help if we cannot SEE the problem. Your vague description ("exquisite" versus "terrible?") isn't enough. Given a couple photos to look at there is a very good chance that someone here can help you understand the nature and cause of the problem. Absent the photos we might as well just flip a coin - we can't help you. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMWright Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Clearly, the camera is fine when it takes "exquisite" pictures indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate_kinnee Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Are you using a filter? If so, take it off for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwtphoto Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 are you going to post samples? otherwise this is a waste of time. many people are here to help but you have to give them something to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachi_abrams Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 Sorry, I am not able to post pictures, as I am now at work. I will try to do so from home. Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I suggested a tripod to keep your test results consistent in doing a test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaetano catelli Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 "I do not want to use a tripod because I always shoot handheld." makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I am not sure if your serious Gaetano but the only reason you would test using a tripod it to rule out camera shake. By no means does this have anything to do with how you shoot. I never use a tripod either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachi_abrams Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 Thanks. I will use a tripod. Do you really think that my UV Hoya filter had something to do with making the pictures look hazy and soft? It never even occurred to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwtphoto Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 some photos require a certain amount of post processing to get the sharpness you may be looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaetano catelli Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 "I will use a tripod." good idea. "Do you really think that my UV Hoya filter had something to do with making the pictures look hazy and soft?" no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry_grim Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 "Always take pictures handheld"...therein lies part of your problem. IS doesn't make sharp pictures idiot proof. What about autofocus? Are you using this correctly? Have you even tried manual focusing? What about camera settings...RAW, JPEG? Applying any sharpening? Try using a tripod, manual focusing. If anything is wrong, it would seem more likely the lens that the camera body. If the camera take exquisite pictures indoors with flash then there is little reason to think there is something wrong with the lens. I have not used IS so I am not sure if that could be part of your problem. I just bought a 40D. No prior digital experience, but many years of film camera experience. Before purchase I downloaded the manual, printed it, studied it. In addition, I bought a book just on the 40D and studied that. Certainly, I did not absorb everything, but my photos from the start were extremely sharp. Take a deep breath, relax, go outside and take photos using a tripod...without IS. If you do not have a tripod, try taking photos at a high shutter speed, and manual focus. I personally think that about 90% of the questions like this are user error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 One thing I would suggest trying is go outside set up on a tripod and compose a well balanced shot using Av. use the timer so you dont bump it and keep upping the Aperture by a full stop. Also check the ISO your using. If its high outdoor shots will look very flat and washed out. For outdoors it should be at 100 to 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken munn Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 So you have a UV filter. No problem if you also have a lens hood. Without a hood, the filter might be causing lower contrast, flare, etc, which could make the pictures look 'terrible'. As a separate topic, why does Canon supply lenses without hoods? The hood is just about essential to get the best from any lens, yet Canon expects us to buy them separately, at least at non-L level. Daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 "why does Canon supply lenses without hoods?" so you fork up more money for the hood of course. Filter are important too should Canon throw those in as well? I wish :-} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall4 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 >>"Do you really think that my UV Hoya filter had something to do with making the pictures look hazy and soft?"<< If you are shooting outside in bright light with out a lens hood. Any filter could cause an issue. Non multi coated would be much worse. I point this out because the 50 f1.8 has a front element that is set back from the front of the lens. This helps with flare. However, when you screw on a filter on the front of it, the glass is very easily affect by side light and flare. Again if the filter is not Multi Coated, it will that much worse. Try the tripod, and take off that filter in the sun. Again, lots of things to take into account. I look forward to seeing your pics. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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