pje Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Just a heads up. I was just notified that the new Nokton 35/1.4 lenses have arrived at CameraQuest. The lens hoods are due to arrive next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r22eng Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Great. Let us know how the lens performs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelging Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I thought it was a 35mm 1.2 not 1.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_gleason1 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 "I thought it was a 35mm 1.2 not 1.4" Nope, it appears to be f/1.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelging Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I looks like New Nokton 35mm 1.2 lenes that are chipped for M8 will be available on March 17th. I also see the 35mm 1.4 you are talking about. http://www.cameraquest.com/voigt3512.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 A 35/1.4 for 50% more than the 40/1.4, why? To cater to the Leica fetishist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 <i>A 35/1.4 for 50% more than the 40/1.4, why? To cater to the Leica fetishist?</i> <p>Another way of looking at it is to compare it to the price of the 35mm Summilux Asph. But you are right about the price vs. the 40mm 1.4. What's also interesting is that the buyer community chooses to ignore the 40mm f1.4, so mesmerized they are by a lens that sounds like the 35mm Summilux Asph. <p>A lot of people think they're going to get steak for the price of hamburger. <p>I can't wait to see Erwin Puts' review of this new lens. I'll wait until then to see if it's a buy. <p>The fetishists defy any logic. That's why they're so amusing to observe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I got one yesterday. Hope to get the hood next week. The lens is designated a "classic." The design is obviously inspired by the old Summilux 35/1.4. In the day I've shot it I can tentatively say that wide open it is sharper than the Summilux. It does tend to flare. Highlights are well controlled. Tones tend to be even and neutral, but there is no Leica "glow." Ergonomically, the focusing ring is a bit stiff but I think it will loosen over time. I'm now using a generic hood which really protrudes into the finder. I shot the following at f1.4 in Sannomiya, Kobe last night with my M8. Will have to wait to see how well the lens handles analogue. <p></p><a href=" title="L1002831 by Alex Es, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2182/2281374399_859baa4a3e_b.jpg" width="683" height="1024" alt="L1002831" /></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 First on the block eh, Alex? The shot doesn't look very sharp to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Possibly me, not the lens. This is handheld and I was just getting used to the ergonomics of the lens. Also the M8 is a bit of problem to focus in low light. On top of that, the roundness of the statue was a little problematic. Also, this is straight out of the camera--no Photoshop. That said, I did not expect the lens to be tack-sharp at f1.4. This not the Summilux 34/1.4 Asph. It is most like the old Summilux with some optical improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Here is another shot with 35/1.4, also with the M8: <p></p> <a href=" title="L1002838 by Alex Es, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2282165234_cd792eb90f_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="L1002838" /></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 That was also shot at f1.4 and has not been Photoshopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orvillerobertson Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Ah, sometimes so jealous of you digital guys and your quick results. Thanks for the report, Alex, can't wait to hear more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 And me--I'd love to have a traditional darkroom. I'll keep everyone posted. I'll shoot black and white on the M8 with it. Might try some real black and white film too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_b Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Ali, do you really want to come across as aggressive and clueless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Does either shot look sharp to you PBB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 If you click on the second image and go to "Original" you'll be surprised, as I was, how sharp the image (the Bentz) really is. I did the same with the first image and realized that the statue looked deceptively softer than it really is because of the round surfaces. Likewise, the seated figure's jacket looks deceptively sharp because of the seams. In both cases the limited depth of field need to be taken into account. With the statue, I focused on the low mid portion of the statue and that area is the sharpest. That both shots were hand-head in low light needs to be taken into account. I must repeat that this lens is not competing with the current Summilux 35/1.4 Asph. The f1.4 images I suspect will be on the soft side even with a tripod. The lens's true edge quality can only be determined by using it on an analogue Leica M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Does it even compare to the 40/1.4 plus 50% cost I know you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I don't have the 40/1.4. I did use a borrowed one which happened to shoot a picture that I displayed here. I'm in position to compare the two. I'm sure someone is and will do so. But that aside, a 40 isn't a 35, just as the proverbial apples aren't oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_gleason1 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Alex: What can we learn about the bokeh of the 35 f/1.4? As I recall, that's a point where some folks complained about the 40 Nokton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkaoshi Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 A fellow over at Flickr has <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sotome/tags/classic35f14/">a lot of photos from the lens online</a>. It looks like a pretty nice lens to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jja Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Alex, I see that your photos are linked from flickr. I've noticed a decrease in sharpness in my photos when I upload them to flickr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Interesting question, John. Bokeh. Take a look at the background of the top photo and you can get an idea of the lens's bokeh signature. My general impression so far is that this is an even, neutral lens. So bokeh should probably on the bland, utilitarian side. I've just shot some dull comparative photos with my old Summilux 35/1.4 and the Voigtlander 35/1.4 at f1.4. The Leica lens has the glow but the Voigtlander has the resolution. Quite remarkable for a lens this relatively cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Juan, you might be right about that. To get good resolution you need to go to "Original." What you see here is "Large," which cuts the original image's size by one-third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yuck... this lens' bokeh looks like the worst I've seen in ages.<p> <a href=" 1</a> (from above flickr link)<p> <a href=" 2</a><p> <a href=" 3</a><p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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