juan_bonet Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 The man that I bought my Leica M4-2, used the camera with a Summicron C 1:2/40mm, that is for the Leica CL. He says me that he likes this combination. I've ever used the M4-2 and M6 with an Summicron 1:2/50mm and never with the "C" 40mm. Any body use this lense with a Leica M (no CL)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 People do it all the time. The frame lines are not right. 35 seems about right for distance, 50 close up. But it is a guessing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumpton Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Yes, but more than a decade ago, so my memory of it is distant. Not sure even what frameline it brought up on the M4-2, but I used the 35mm frameline as an aproximate view. The Summicron 40 seemed to focus OK, but bear in mind that it has a different cam than the M lenses. Apparently it moves over a shorter distance than the M lens cams, but nonetheless has the same offset as the M lenses for the same RF distance. However it may not focus as precisely as an M lens on your M body. This would probably only be an issue at widest apertures Others may know a lot more about this than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_bonet Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Are the frames for the 35mm right for the 40mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 If you read my answer, no the frames are not right. See above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james mitchell dc Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 The 35 frames on an M6 are pretty close. You'll get used to the adjustments very quickly. This is a great little combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 The 35mm framlines on the M6 are almost perfect for the Summicron-C at working distances of 6' or more. Unfortunately, this lens brings up the 50mm framelines, but it easily modified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_bonet Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Mine Summicron-C is modified yet, because it brings up the 50mm framelines. Then, the 35mm framlines from M6 are good for the C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_wright1 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I use my 40mm Summicron C with my M6 all the time. I did the simple filing of the rangefinder cam so it indexes the proper 35mm frameline. Seach photo.net for instructions on how to do this or see your favorite service person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 if you like chopping heads and feet of a full portrait use the 35 lines w/in 10 feet. 50/2 crons can be had for a similar price/trade, ~$300 us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_matherson Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 "I did the simple filing of the rangefinder cam so it indexes the proper 35mm frameline." I think you mean the lens mount not the rangefinder cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frederick_muller Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I'm with Mohir on this one. Use a 40mm on the CL or the Bessa R3. On the M4 and M6, use 50mm's and 35mm's like papa leitz intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I use my 40mm summicron C as my everyday, take anywhere, just going for a walk lens on my M6 and M5. As others have said its a great lens, small, compact, sharp with a classic look to it. I've never seen a 50mm summicron that's worth using for the same price. There are instructions on line with photos that show how to modify it for 35mm framelines, which is very simple. I also modified the retaining ring from a torn original rubber hood to use a rectangular hood from a 35mm summicron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_ford1 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I regularly use my 40 on my M6 and have no problems, but I've found it to be even better on my M3 using the entire VF FOV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Like Ken, I use a 40mm on my M3 and think it works pretty well. It's a great general purpose focal length, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_bonet Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 When you use the 40mm "C", use the original Leica rubber lenshood or use another hood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroslav_vodehnal Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I use 35mm f/2 ASPH Summicron hood on my Summicron C,look to the link bellow http://myweb.lmu.edu/sshepherd/Summicron40Hood.htm cheers Mirek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_larese1 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 cameraquest.com sells metal replacements for the 40 C. It's a wonderful lens I use on my M6 all the time. On the Bessas you can set the frame to 35mm and you're all set; on the Leicas you get used to seeing 40mm FOV in 50mm lines. You know you can go a little tighter if you have to, just a bit beyond the 50mm lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_kelly13 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Steve, what do you mean "go a little tighter...just outside the 50mm frame lines " seems contradictory - I'm confused (my default state!:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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