vrphoto Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Hi. I have about $300-350 at the most to spend on a (probably used) portrait lens. I'm looking for a good fast lens in natural light with a great bokeh. I was set on the 85mm 1.8 nikkor, but also have seen that this site recommends the sigma 30mm 1.4. Does anyone have any advice before I shell out the dough? Thanks!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_bradtke Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 What don't you like about the 50? What camera are you going to use it on? If its film 30 might be a little on the wide side. You need to give us a little more info to be able to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanjo_viagran Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 IMO you can't go wrong with the 85mm 1.8D and in your budget you can easily find a MINT one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrphoto Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 It's for my digital--d50. I love the 50mm but wanted to get something that I could use to blur the background more and w/ a better bokeh...also, where do you suggest to "easily find a MINT one"--ebay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_margolis Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Valerie, a new 85mm f/1.8 costs about $400. To get back into your budget, check out used lenses at KEH..... http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductList.aspx?Mode=searchproducts&item=0&ActivateTOC2=false&ID=&Size=&BC=&BCC=&CC=&CCC=&BCL=&GBC=&GCC=&KW=Nikon%2085mm%20lens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanjo_viagran Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 item 300186602004 few days ago it was one for sale in Nikonian for $275 (already SOLD). if you have time to roam around check the classified here, Nikonians and FredMiranda.. and ebay.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_ferrante Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 30mm is too wide for portrait, you would have that "big nose" problem. 85 or 105mm would be my choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrphoto Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 Do you still think that 30mm is too wide, considering that it'll be 45mm on my camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobiscuits Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 You must also consider where you will be shooting your portraits, how much distance can you put between the camera and subject. Realize that the 85mm (which I would love to try out) is probably useless in an average home setting - you will need a lot of distance between the camera and subject in order to fit everything in frame. If you are shooting in your home studio I'd suggest the 50mm. Nice little lens. `$100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars790 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Surprised to see that no one has mentioned the 50mm f/1.4. Even though you have the 50mm f/1.8, try the f/1.4. I shelled out the extra dough for it because of it's creamy bokeh. It fits your budget and you can sell/trade your f/1.8. I have the 85mm f/1.4 and while it is amazing, i still use my 50mm when i need a little more pixel space to show my subject. Here's a recent shot of my daughter. It was snowing out, so instead of using my 85 on my D300, i slapped the 50 1.4 on my D200 and caught my favorite portrait of her yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobiscuits Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 ah silly me. now i see that you already have a 50. well, good luck anyway =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars790 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Shun, why are my recent images not embedding? They are less than 511 pixels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrphoto Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 Thanks for the comment, especially about the 50mm 1.4. It's something I'll have to think about--whether I'd be confined to using it outdoors or something. I already find myself shooting through doorways and windows to get more space when I'm on location. I do like to get up close though, as in the image included in the first post, so maybe it would be good for that style of pic? (meaning the 85mm...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars790 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Valerie, 30mm is too wide for flattering portraits. 85mm is great - when you have some room to work with. Say, at least 10 ft. for a head and upper torso shot. When I have less room, i break out my 50mm. I'm actually rediscovering how good my 50mm 1.4 is as i was pulling out the 85mm 1.4 every chance i had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I use the 50mm 1.8 on my DSLR and it is a great portrait lens. The image you uploaded is nice. I also use the 50mm 1.8 on my film cameras and still get great portraits with it. I also use a Tamron 28-75 2.8 great for active kids that won't stay in one place. The sigma 30mm 1.4 could be a good lens get in close shoot wide open and the background will disapear. You need to decide what you want, the 85mm will give you more working space the 30mm will mean you will have to get even closer. I like also the 105mm F2.5 manual focus but it wont meter on you d50.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matthew Currie Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 For image embedding: Make sure you have a title, even if it's just a dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Right, for images to show up "in line" with the thread, there are 2 requirements: (1) within 511 pixels wide and (2) must have a caption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_ricks Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Tell us again why you don't want a zoom? Is it that you don't feel F2.8 is fast enough? Or that good examples can't create good bokeh? I am thinking of the 35-70 AF-D wich is sharp as can be and can take the place of your feet if zooming that way is too hard. It is only a 40% zoom but it can be had used in your price range no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_schafer1 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 85, 1.4 and the 105 macro are my favorites. Every other lens can do the job, get the image on the film/sensor, but if you want some magic, here you are (a least the tools) best MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrphoto Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 Hi everyone--thanks so much for your input. After thinking about everything said here and looking on flickr at some more images shot with the 85mm, I decided that what I really need (building upon what I can already do w/ the 50mm) is the telephoto magic and the option to blur backgrounds more completely when I'm on location. It's a bit long at 130mm like you said, but I think it'll be ok for individual and baby closer portraits indoors and then great outdoors. I was able to get an 85mm 1.8 on ebay for $212 that's supposed to be in great condition. It was cheap because it was on a N6006 and not listed in the lens section. Hopefully everything looks good when it arrives--I'll post some images when I get it. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrphoto Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 Ps--anyone want a N6006? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsurufoto Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 go 50mm f/1.4... either that Sigma one or a Nikon, either way, you are set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chansonbleu Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I find the 30mm1.4 works well for environmental portraits.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmurray Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Valerie, post some pics with your new lens when you get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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