What became of Galerie?

[john_kasaian2]

Hello! I just got off Ilford's website and low and behold no Galerie!I did a search and Ilford's site acted like the stuff never existed. I even tried spelling it Gallerie but to no avail. Does anyone out there know if this paper is gone for good? Calumet's ironic copy about all cold tone graded fiber base papers falling off the face of the earth is hard enough to take with the cancelling of graded Brilliant Bromide. There seems to be plenty of Galerie at places like Freestyle and B and H, but if its been discontinued, then for the sake of continuity I'll have to use something else. Has Galerie slithered into the tar pits like all the other dinosaurs? Any suggestions for a replacement? Thanks.

[john_horowy]

You might want to try Bergger graded papers. We're not going nowhere.

[michael_feldman1]

Ilford is now using the Gallerie name for its digital inkjet papers.

Gallerie graded paper has not been documented on the B&W section of

the Ilford website for a long time (if ever) and it's still available

at many large retailers (as you indicated). There has been no

official statement from Ilford on this one way or the other that I

have seen.

 

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Oriental Seagull G is an excellent graded paper manufactured in a

small company in Japan and available at large retailers in the US.

Their website is at: http://www.orientalphotousa.com/

[ed b.]

The technical rep from Ilford has told our Printing & Finishing forum

repeatedly that Ilford has no plans to discontinue Galerie. I hope

that is true, but I think I better stock up before I find out

otherwise. I've had excellent experience with Luminos bromide paper,

and with Bergger. I've heard good things about the Forte cold tone

paper, but haven't tried it yet.

[jim_galli4]

Some one correct me if I'm wrong (stupid thing to say at this forum)

but isn't Arista Classic graded at Freestyle Sales Co. really Ilford

Galerie?

[john_kasaian2]

Thank you all! I'll definately give Bergger,Forte, Luminos, and

Oriental a try and hold off using Galerie for my current project

until I feel comfortable with Ilford's commitment to continue

production.

[sal_santamaura]

John, that's an approach which, if everyone takes it, will ensure

Galerie's demise. Here's something from the B&W Printing/Finishing

board that Ed was talking about:

 

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Go to this thread

 

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=006JiD

 

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and see my Sept. 16, 2001 post concerning continued availability of

Galerie.

[john_kasaian2]

Sal---Good point! I think its time to gather some negatives

together, buy a good selection of graded fiberbase papers from as

many manufacturers as I can(except Zone VI since they're out of the

graded paper game) and see which one I like best---including Galerie

and it's alter-ego from Freestyle. Probably something I should have

done some time ago. Thanks for all the excellent input!

[sal_santamaura]

John, if you have interest in including the imminently vanished Zone

VI Brilliant Bromide II, all evidence suggests it is manufactured by

Kentmere, and therefore should also be available in the US as a

Luminos product.

[jstream]

Hi Guys,

 

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Way back when in school, we used Ilfobrom. When I came back to

photography several years ago, I found that ilfobrom was now gallery,

amd gallery was now warmtone. A quick test showed that the current

warmtone and the old gallery are pretty darn close. You might try it

yourself.

 

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Will

[wilhelm]

I don't think so.

[patty_meikle]

john,

i actually just ordered ilford's ilfobrom galerie paper about a week

and a half ago from Abbey Camera in Philadelphia. i've never used

this paper before, but i've read many good things about it. the paper

is on back order, but they will be delivering it to me (hopefully).

what is so different about this paper? is there any special

developing technique that i should be aware of?

thanks,

patty

[wayne__]

Patty,

 

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I havent used Galerie in over 10 years and i didnt use it much even

then. I prefer Seagull for cold tones and Forte warmtone for warm,

Galerie (if I remember correctly) falls in between. It does have a

slightly greenish cast to it, I know that. This ( I think) can be

removed by toning, and you might experiment with developers (or just

add some benzotriazole) if you dont like the color but dont want to

tone. There dont seem to be many people using it anymore, and i dont

see it discussed often. It does have its devotees though, and you'll

just have to try it to see if you are one. Although it may be similar

to Ilfobrom (which I've never used), I dont think its identical. Hard

to say, since Ilfobrom is long gone.

[sal_santamaura]

Ilford has updated many of its black and white Fact Sheets in the last

few months. They're on the Web site:

 

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http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/homeng.html

 

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and Ilfobrom Galerie FB is now included!

[wclark5179]

Try this:<P>

 

http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/pdf/galerie_fb.pdf

 

<P>Bill Clark

[jeffrey_scott]

I haven't tried the Bergger graded paper but I have used their variable contrast warm tone paper. It is quite slow but the tonal range is excellent; there is an amazing amount of shadow detail available plus it tones very nicely in Selenium toner.