randy_kurtz Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hello all. I am having trouble with flash glare on eye glasses. This is my setup. Canon 5D 24-70mm lens, 2 Hensel 500w mono lights. The lights are setup 15ft in frount of the shot and the lights are just 5ft apart and 5ft high. The 5D is set on 400ISO/f9/ shutter 1/125 what can I change to get rid for the glare on the glasses. Thanks Randy... http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/RLKURTZ/IMG_2991.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_kurtz Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 I need to add I am using umbrellas on my lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james d. Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Tell them to remove their glasses. It's honestly the simplest solution. If they don't and you are not in a studio or they have plenty of patience's for you to tweak things then they have to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckry Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 She needs to tilt her head down slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hop_phan Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I have seen photographer using just eye glass frame ( without glasses ) in their studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant g Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Raise your lights higher or tell the people with glasses to tilt/face down a little. I've never asked anyone to remove glasses, and have on a few occaisions told individuals to put them back on "if that's how people normally see them". I've had to explain when asked about the flash reflections, that "I can take care of that..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_kurtz Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 Grant Gaborno, What do you think about moving the lights in to about 10ft and up about 8ft tall? Do you think this will be a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant g Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Randy, Good thinking-that would probably do the trick in this case. I was just coming back to this thread to also suggest moving the lights closer, if possible as that makes them "taller" relative to the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_kurtz Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 Sounds GREAT!! Thanks you all for the help.randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnt Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 This is always a problem, especially with on-camera flash. Having the subjects rotate their heads slightly left or right while still looking at the camera works best for me. Tilting the head down works too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari douma Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Yes, Lights higher and chin down helps. Another trick is to have them raise thier earpieces up, so the glass is tilted down a little bit. You get the glare when the flash hits the glass straight on. I sometimes tell people to take off thier glasses for one or two picutes, then I use that image to photoshop the eyes if needed. This glare you could probably clone out pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari douma Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Here is an example of my suggestion above of removing glassses to use the eyes. This is my aunt. I knew she would have glass glare when I did this, so I told her to remove her glasses, and then I used those eyes to make the last portrait.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 That's a great example, Kari. Another thing you can do besides all the above suggestions is to turn the person's face away from the light that is causing the glare. Also, umbrellas make it more difficult to deal with glare because of the size of the reflection. If using a key/fill set-up, keep the fill light small--don't use an umbrella on it to cut down on the frontal, large reflection it would cause. Being the fill light, it won't make much difference re softness of light and shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_kurtz Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 Kari thats awesome :) I am going to give it a try in CS3 today. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_kurtz Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 Kari I just used photostitch to put the two photos side by side then saved it and then opened the photo with photoshop and used the clone stamp on the eyes. Is the a easyer way to do this? This is very cool! Thanks randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 If the glasses are to remain on then you HAVE to get the light source out of the family of angles (by moving lights - changing head / glasses angles etc). If you're keen, pickup a copy of Light, science & magic - it's the industry standard introductory text on protographic lighting - and covers reflection issues in great depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari douma Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Randy, this is how I did it in CS2. I opened both files. I used the square marquet tool to select the eyes with no glasses, from the forehead to the bridge of the nose, to the sides of the face. Then I used the move tool to take her eyes off the image and lay them on the image with glasses. I lowered the opacity of the layer so I could see through the eyes with no glasses, to line them up exactly on top of the eyes with glasses. Then I put the opacity back to 100%. Then I masked the new eyes, and inverted the mask, so that the new eyes were not showing at all. Then I used my white brush to paint them on where the glass glare was. It sounds complicated, but it probably only took about 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_rivera9 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 One final thing to give a try without changing much of your setup is to use a polarizing filter. If it still doesn't remove your glare then you could move it closer and higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santa1 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I'll re-emphasize the comment that umbrellas make the problem worse. if you use a panel type diffuser that if flat you'll have less reflection . You may still need to raise the lights or use the digital restoration after shooting with and without the glasses but in some situations just using a flat diffuser will suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Jose Rivera wrote: "One final thing to give a try without changing much of your setup is to use a polarizing filter. If it still doesn't remove your glare then you could move it closer and higher." It won't help - this is direct reflection, not glare. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattalofs Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 You can usually get rid of glare on glasses by having the wearer smudge them with fingerprints. That way you can avoid photoshop or repositioning the subject. Be sure to have lens cloth on hand for them to clean up afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_schilling___chicago_ Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Raise your lights to about 45 degrees from the subjects and have her drop her chin abit,....easy peasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_kurtz Posted October 14, 2007 Author Share Posted October 14, 2007 Thanks agen to all this has been a very big help!! randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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