Robert White Camera (UK) and import duties

[martin_vanmeter1]

I am tempted to order a lens from Robert White Camera in the UK. For those who have dealt with this firm, what are the import duties into the US for a $600 to $800 camera lens? Thank you for any replys.

 

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Martin VanMeter

Lexington, KY

[dick_bennett]

Hi, I recently bought a Sinar F1 from these guys. Camera was $790.00,

I was charged $93.00 for shipping and $56.00 duty. Total$939.00. This

compares with $2311 from B&H. I have order other items from them with

only good results to report. Dick Bennett

[michael_kravit]

Recently I purchased a for my wife, new Contax G2 including lenses

and case from Robert White (She was a very good girl). The entire

package cot $90 for International shipping and $63 import duty. Even

with the duty and extra shipping, I saved over $400 on a US purchase.

 

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They are great folks to deal with.

 

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Mike

[sandy_sorlien]

I just ordered from Robert White and promptly received an Arca Swiss

camera, lens, two backs, and adapter and saved about $1200 over US

prices. The shipping was about $100 via FedEx (recommended) and I have

not been charged any duty yet --- I got everything about 3 weeks ago,

so I don't know whether they overlooked my duty or whether I will be

surprised soon. But it sure won't be anywhere near the savings amount.

[scott_jones4]

Well, I am new to large format and the usenet, BUT finally get to

contribute an answer isnstead of just asking all the time!

 

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I ordered my new Toyo VX125 and a bunch of photo and darkroom

equipment from him. Service was superb, prices were much better on

everything I bought. I spent about $4,500 total and the shipping was

$90.00 UPS 3 day. The order was held up by UPS due to their need for

my Social Security number to clear customs which I finally got to

them. The duty was only 1.5% ($67.50) which was much better than the

3% I was told to expect by Robert.

 

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After talking with US cutoms before I even ordered, it was clear to

me that how each piece of equipment fits into each catagory that they

have is Highly subjective. I mean these catagories are really obscure

and difficult to know what they mean. I am not even really sure that

they have any catagories that are really applicable to large format

per se. I expect that duty levies can fluctuate all over the map, but

the above is my experience and I was VERY pleased. I did find out

that each carrier uses a contracted business to do the duty charging

for them and it isn't the customs department themselves. So who knows

how the charges are figured!

 

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Some small peripheral accessory items were not better deals at

Robert's such as the Toyo 3.6x loupe, peak grain magnifier etc. BUT

some items were significantly cheaper such as Toyo cut film holders.

The price came down to comparable to the other brands and they are

finely made.

 

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All in all I highly recommend their business. Whether using Fedex

would be better than UPS I don't know, but suspect it might (based

totally on rumour and hunch!)

 

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Scott

[tim_klein1]

I second Scott's observations about duty charges being pretty funky.

 

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My first order from RW was a Gitzo tripod that ran around $450.00. I

had told my wife to expect the package with a small amount due but

UPS just left it on my porch and forgot to charge for it. (of course

my wife was ever so helpful, and called them back to TELL them they

forgot to charge me!) The duty came to $31.00 for that order.

 

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My next order was for a medium format Mamiya lens (~750.00) and a

Ricoh point and shoot camera (~$300.00). The duty on that one was

only $22.00 despite the total bill being more than twice as much.

 

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Robert White's policy seems to be to give you a worst case estimate.

You shouldn't owe any more than they tell you to expect.

 

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I've been very impressed. They've been great people to work with;

very fair and honest. I wouldn't hesitate to order from them again.

[andreas_carl]

I ordered 3 times from R. White, there was duty on one package, two

came without. The two packages that "slipped through" were ordered

early during the week and arrived 2 days later (yes, you will receive

your package 2 days after R. White sends it off). The one that got

charged went over the weekend and had more time to "clear" customs I

guess...

[william_marderness1]

About 1 in 3 packages get charged duty, in my experience.

[larry_huppert7]

You can call customs in your locale, and get one of the import

specialists to give you what it "should" be. This is not to say this

is what you'll end up with. I've written before on what I believe is

the best way to get the right duty charged - ask the vendor to code

it using the language used in the regulations.

 

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From looking at the US Customs Harmonized Tarrif System (HTS)

database available from the customs website

(http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff2001.asp), I'd guess the

following:

 

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For lenses:

 

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HTS Number: 90021190

Brief Description: Objective lenses and parts & access. thereof, for

cameras, projectors, or photographic enlargers or reducers, except

projection, nesi

Tarrif: 2.3%

 

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Many photographic accessories:

 

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HTS Number: 90069100

Brief Description: Parts and accessories for photographic cameras,

not cinematographic

Tarrif: 5.8%

 

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4x5 View Cameras (I plugged "camera" into the database, and thought

the following was the only classification of view camera which fit):

 

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HTS Number: 90065990

Brief Description: Photographic cameras, other than fixed focus,

valued over $10 each, nesi

Tarrif: 0%

 

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Now, I'm not a international trade attorney, so take the above as one

lay person's opinion. I've never ordered a camera internationally,

so I don't have any first hand war stories either.

[ed_hoo]

See <A href="http://dataweb.usitc.gov/SCRIPTS/tariff/toc.html">http://dataweb.usitc.gov/SCRIPTS/tariff/toc.html</A> which should take you to <A href="http://dataweb.usitc.gov/SCRIPTS/tariff/0205c90.pdf">http://dataweb.usitc.gov/SCRIPTS/tariff/0205c90.pdf</A>.<BR>

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The most useful categories seem to be:<BR>

<UL>

<LI>9002.11.90 - Lenses 2.3%</LI>

<LI>9002.90.20 - Prisms 2.8%</LI>

<LI>9006.30.00 - Underwater Cameras (Free)</LI>

<LI>9006.51.40 - 35mm SLR Cameras (Free)</LI>

<LI>9006.53.70 - 35mm Range Finders Cameras w/o flash (Free)</LI>

<LI>9006.59.90 - MF + LF Cameras (Free)</LI>

<LI>9006.61.20 - Electronic Flash (Free)</LI>

<LI>9006.91.00 - Camera Parts and Accessories 5.8%</LI>

</UL>

Values as of 12/2002 for non-cinematographic camera equipment (see the Harmonized Tariff Schedule for details). Use the numbers above at your own risk.<BR>

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