dcreason Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 i have found a 1d mark 2 locally for 2000 however i can get a new 40d for 1300. I shoot everything sports, weddings, portraits, events... just looking for a few opinions before purchase. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve torelli Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Depends on whether you need the higher frame rate of the 1D or not. If you don't need more than 4 or 5 FPS, I'd get the 40D. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_smith4 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Isn't the 40D 6fps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stock-Photos Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Unless you plan to make oversize prints and lots of them, I'd go for the 40D. Then invest the left over $600.00 in a fine lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stock-Photos Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 My math is poor. Make it the left over $700.00... invest in some L glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
images_in_light_north_west Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Unless you need 1D build, 40D, 6fps should do you. $700 will buy you a 17-40 f4L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I was quite surprised at the number of features that first appeared on the 1D3 that subsequently appeared on the 40D (10MP, 3" screen, Ultra-sonic cleaning, Live-view, 14 bit). I can't think of any real advantages of a 1D2 over a 40D - and the 40D is cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_clark___minnetonka_mi Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 1D2 has features & benefits not offered on the 40D. Check out the specs and perhaps rent each one to see what suits you. Best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve santikarn Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 the 40D has the added advantage of being able to use the Canon series of EF-S lenses as well. Some like the 10-22mm and the 17-55mm f2.8 IS are very good lenses to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_lubow Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 It's all a matter of personal preference. What features are important to you? Personally, I would choose any 1-series body over any midline body IF I had to have ONLY ONE DSLR camera. They are a heck of a lot easier and sensical to control, have the features that REALLY matter to me (not FPS or a huge file size), and are obviously better-built cameras, even from across the room. Notice I said "if". I like the lower-end models just fine, and have two that I use a lot. But I would dump both of them before my 1D (Mk. I) without a second thought if for some reason I decided to could no longer justify owning three cameras. My priorities are build quality, comfort of control, and responsiveness. Yours' may differ. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Keith Lubow wrote: "They are a heck of a lot easier and sensical to control, have the features that REALLY matter to me (not FPS or a huge file size), and are obviously better-built cameras, even from across the room. " Control of the 1D2 usually requires pressing at least 1 button (and sometimes 2 buttons) at the same time as moving the quickdial - it was set that was with the intention of making things less prone to being changed accidentally, but in reality proved to be nothing more than a PITA - and has subsequently been dropped for the 1D3 (and 40D). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Bill Clark wrote: "1D2 has features & benefits not offered on the 40D. " When you compare them, not many actually. 40D has ... 1. More pixels 2. Bigger LCD Screen 3. 14 bit A->D Conversion 4. UltraSonic sensor cleaning 5. Can use EF-S lenses 6. Live View 7. Much cheaper 8. Digic III 9. USB II 10. Highlight Tone Priority 11. Silent Mode 1D2 Has 1. More AF points 2. Slightly faster FPS (8.3 -v- 6.5) 3. Weather sealing (Full -v- Partial) 4. Dual Card capability Did I miss any important ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_lubow Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Well, I guess I am just wrong, then. Shucks. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 It happened to me once too, but luckily Mark U spotted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcreason Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 i am glad i asked, sometimes i believe "camera envy" creeps in and takes over the logical side. as stated earlier the 1d just looks different from across the room. I noticed a whole different world when i went from a xt to a 30d and now with a 40d coming out at less than a 30d price i know i will need to move the xt's before the price falls (it's like watching the stock market) the xt's will be for sale today. and if i have learned anything about technology i should buy the 40d, because manufacturers will make the 1d's obsolete asap (vista is the ultimate example of that) thanks for the info. if you all have more i'd love to hear it. d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant g Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I'd think it would matter most if you have EF-S lenses that you like. That's the main reason why I still use a 30D for weddings even though I do have a 1D2 and 5D. Another reason is for the similar interface...I'd rather shoot with a 30D and 40D over the 30D and 1D2. Unless there's rain in the weather forecast... For sports or birding, I'd rather have the 1D2. I find that the pixel size of even the 30D to be very demanding on lens sharpness...I imagine the 40D will be more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Colin Southern is on fire. To the question: As an `all rounder` for a camera body; without knowing the rest of your equipment kit; my simple value for money, non technical answer and without and specific comparison between the two bodies in question . . . buy the 40D and keep $700 in your kick. WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 >>> and keep $700 in your kick. <<< what idiot wrote that? . . . and spend $700 on other gear. WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_sibson1 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Despite being on fire, Colin did miss one possibly important point, which is that the 1DII offers high-precision AF down to f/4 and standard-precision AF down to f/8, both at the central focusing point only. If you are trying to get the most stretch out of long lenses by using Extenders, the f/8 capability is valuable, and if you have some of Canon's excellent f/4 L-series zooms, then HP focus at f/4 may be worth having. More generally, the AF system on the 1-series cameras still sets the standard, although to me the 40D seems like a real step forward compared to its predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medina photography cherry Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Kevin missed- the 40D is weather sealed as well. I have the 1DMKII- I have even thought about selling it and getting the 40D- For me it would be an easy decision of getting the 40D over the 1DMKII. Let me know how that new AF works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_smith2 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 The 1D2 is a 1.3 crop sensor and the 40D is a 1.6. Your wide angles become wider on the 1D series than on the X0D series. Your teles get shorter, but I'd rather have some more wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 >>> if you have some of Canon's excellent f/4 L-series zooms, then HP focus at f/4 may be worth having. <<< (RS) >>> The 1D2 is a 1.3 crop sensor and the 40D is a 1.6. <<< (JR) >>> I shoot everything sports, weddings, portraits, events... just looking for a few opinions before purchase. <<< (DC) Dennis: Just a few examples of useful opinions but un tailored to your question. I hinted in my post: >>> As an `all rounder` for a camera body; without knowing the rest of your equipment kit; my simple value for money, non technical answer <<< Just highlighting a frustration that I have on occasions: that of limited information given in the original question. Cheers. WW Aside: >>> Despite being on fire . . . etc <<< (RS) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcreason Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 more info and a question. my equipment is currently a 30d and two xt's the xt's will be replaced either sold or used by assistants. My lenses are a 20mm 2.8, 50mm 1.4 and an 85 1.8 (I zoom with my legs) my upper end will be a 70-200 L 2.8 is usm (does the price seem to be going up instead of down on these?)converters will be added to that too. i'm pretty sold on the 40d i believe that is where canon is going to invest the most new toys into. will, your name is followed by "retired" why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 >>> will, your name is followed by "retired" why? <<< Ah. . . when I joined Photonet I had been a few years out of the professional photography business, and (I do not know why) at the time I thought it was useful, as part of my handle. It is not. And I cannot change it, and I have asked twice for a Moderator to change it, but that has not happened. All the details / explanation are on my Bio page. Thanks for following up on my question: In your shoes, I also would buy the 40D, (or a 5D if there is need for 135 format). Cheers, WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_clark___minnetonka_mi Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Colin, I do like the dual card of my Mark cameras. I have them set up to write each file to both cards and I have a storage case that I place the SD card and the CF card fits on top of the SD. I can do a complete gig and most of a second on one battery. I do have backups but it is another thing That I don't have to worry about at an important event. The life of the Mark cameras should be quite a bit longer than others. The shuuter alone has a pretty long life on the ID cameras. Fortunately I haven't had any mis haps like someone stumbling over a tripod and oops. If that should happen I believe the Mark cameras are pretty well built to withstand some shock. However if that did happen at a gig I was doing I would immediately use another camera just to be sure. You are correct on the features of the 40D. It probably is a fine camera. I have a 20D I do some PJ work with mainly because I keep it as a portable unit and the others I have set up to work on a tripod. I'd like my 20D to last another year (it's 3 yrs old this December) then I may buy a 40D to use the way way. Best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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