Toning Forte Polywarmtone paper

[bob_moulton1]

Has anyone experience with or hints about toning Forte Polywarmtone paper? Following mfg. suggestions with selenium toner I get a warming effect but the tone is not as deep as I would like. When I immerse the print for a lengthier time the images reddens rather than darkens.

Bob

[ted_davis4]

Bob, the Forte Polygrade will give deeper tones in selenium than the

Polywarmtone which is already a warm paper. The Polygrade (both FB and

RC) are the best papers I've ever printed on. I stick with Polygrade

and tone heavily if I want warm.

[hans_berkhout]

Recently I found that using plain runnning water as stop bath gives

me stronger selenium toning results.(as opposed to an acid stop

bath). I use Forte Polygrade paper, tone at 75-80F for 5-10 minutes:

50ml RS toner in 3L water.

[jacque_staskon1]

First there should be a couple of questions answered. What paper

developer are you using? What is your dilution of selenium to water?

How long are your leaving the paper in the toner? There are a range

of tones available on the Forte Poly warm tone papers. The developer

you use can really make a difference with these papers. I have tested

these papers for years in class with different developers and

different dilutions of selenium, what we have come up with is this.

Really warm rich browns with a hint of reddish purple use the warm

tone (Alta or Agfa)developer and selenium 1:10 for 5 minutes. Rich

neutral tones with Dektol or Bromophen ( the bromophen seems a tad

redder) selenium 1:10 for 5 minutes. Warm rich browns with creamier

highlights use the BW165 and selenium 1:10 for five minutes. Two step

fixing process. Soak the prints after fixing for at least 30 minutes,

then wash for 5 minutes. Tone the prints, then final wash. We use

the TF4 fixer from formulary. We use a very dilute acid stop. For

warm tone the Forte is fabulous. You can get an even more varied tone

when you decide to bleach an image. Many times I will print down an

image, bleach it a bit and then tone. Or print it a bit dark and

selectively bleach an area to add some local contrast then tone.

Because the paper you are choosing is warm tone it will not get a

great deal darker when you selenium tone it. If you are looking for

very dark tones use a neutral or cold tone paper.

Anybody get their hands on the new Ilford Cold tone yet>?