joel_stowe Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi all, I am looking to get a medium format camera and am looking at the Mamiya TLR or going with a Bronica 645 system. I would be using it to take pictures of landscape, close-ups of fences, old buildings. I may use it to take portraits every once in a while. With the TLR what lens would you recommend?Thanks Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 TLR has limitted lens selection, only 80, 180, and 250 mm on teles, or one wide lens, but that is perhaps all you would want. I settled for 80mm and 180mm. There is no mirror loud clap noise, and you can sync flash at all shutter speeds. This will practically prevent any "closed eyes" effect in people sensitive to noise or a flash, pre-flash etc. Picture taking is very quiet operation. The built-in bellows allows close ups without additional rings, just need to observe the paralax. TLR is usually lighter than any other type of medium format camera. Mamiya lenses are of great reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyowen Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I've been using Mamiya TLRs for over 45 years and have just never seen a reason to look elsewhere for a superior camera. Lens range from 55 to 250 MM, They may be a little on the heavy side but I still manage mine with no problems and there built like a tank. I've never had on fail me in the field and ther virtually maintenance free, and of coarse in this age of a new digital release every few days they're rather inexpensive, Best of luck in your photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_long Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 There are also 105mm and 135mm lenses available in addition to the ones mentioned above. <br>The lens interchangeability and the close focus allowed by the bellows make the Mamiyas very versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj_bas Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I've used both the 220 and 330 Pro for several years now. I find I use the 65mm and 105mm more than any other lenses. I shoot similar to what you describe. The 220 is lighter and I'd recommend that if you're going to be carrying it around all day. Takes just as good pictures as the 330. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre_reinders Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I have an original C model which is the lightest (and oldest) model I believe. I have the 80mm and 105mm lenses for it, but mainly use the 80mm - I would love to have something wider - but since it is a hobby camera I don't plan on investing much $ in it. I do love using the camera, and it produces great quality shots. As far as lenses - like I said, something wider for landscapes and a little tighter for portraits. So maybe a 65mm and a 135mm would be a nice kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankfitz Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I used to own 2 Mamiya TLR's and found that they were great camera's. In particular I thought that the 180mm especially good for both landscapes and portraits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 The Bronica ETRS is a great camera for the money. It's got alot of lenses n accessories available for it, you'll be spending all your allowence on it for a long time to come. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 With the Mamiya TLR, the 55mm late model black lens, 80mm S, and 180 S are among the best lenses made for the series. These are black lenses. The 105mm late model is also great, if you like that perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin_lee Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I would recommend the C330f or C330s. As for lenses, like Nadine, I would recommend the 55mm, 80mm (or 105mm), & 180mm Super. I would stick with the all black lenses as they are newer and have slightly better lens coatings. Here is one I took a few years ago with my C330f & 80mm lens. At the bottom of the image is a 100% crop. http://members.cox.net/leecw/San-Diego01Web2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert lee Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Look into the RB-67 family of SLR's as well. These are more versatile than the TLR but quite heavy. I don't think 645's offer enough film area relative to 35mm to make it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have botha Mamiya C3 and a C220 which I use for landscape. They are simple and robust, and the lenses are excellent (the C220 has the 'black' series lenses). If you can get hold of a C330 (F or S) then that's even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_philcox2 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 get the Bronica 645 - the lenses are better IMHO. Of all the medium format cameras that I have shot with I find the Mamiya c330/220 to be the least impressive, slide (E6), B&W and print, rather drab and dull, comparatively speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I just saw an ETRS with back, lens n prism on one of these forums for $225. What a bargain! The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence_ober2 Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 I have both the Mamiya C330S and Bronica ETRSi systems. The TLR is my favorite except for size and weight. I tend to use it mostly in the studio but it would be fine in the field if you don't mind it's imposing mass. It is easy to direct models as the waist level image is reversed the photographer's and model's left/right are the same. The Bronica 645 is a very nice handling camera that is great for handheld use with a grip and eye level prism. I have both rapid wind grips and prefer the motorized version. The rectangular format almost mandates a prism unless you always shoot in landscape orientation, in which case waist level is fine. The Bronica does have the advantage of interchangeable backs - OTOH you have to carry them in the kit. Definitely invest in a premium screen (Brightscreen, Beattie, Maxwell) even though they cost as much or more than a used body. It will be over a stop brighter than the factory versions and easier to focus. Given your use I would suggest the 55mm and 105mm lenses for the TLR. I find both the Mamiya and Bronica lenses to be nice and sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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