tehsa_lleighnore Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 i <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Lvfy" target="_new">posted</a> a couple weeks ago about this problem and am ready to give up. i tried the freezer trick several times at different time intervals: 10, 20, 40. then i stuck my filters in there for an hour and nothing. even turned the temperature up at highest. when i pulled it out, it was stuck to the freezer shelf but they still didn't get unstuck. this so called freezer trick doesn't seem to be working as you say. does more than an hour work? if anyone can remember a specific time interval at whatever temperature your freezer is at that would be most helpful. for now i'm just going to the local camera store and see if they can help me because time is running out and a big project is coming up soon. if i had the money to get these wrenches i would but i can't. i'm hoping this store can help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Aluminum filter rims stick. You get brass with better brands. A trace amouont of silicone grease will help if you get them apart. A freeze won`t work. You need to freeze the male, heat the female. After freezing, some warm water on the female may help. There needs to be a temp differential. Never screw these tight ever ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickwhite Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Try this - put the filters in the 'palm' of your hands (do NOT grip the rims), applying pressure to the palms as equally as possible, twist in opposite directions. Unless there has been physical damage to the rims this usually works, but it might take a few tries to get the hang of it! I've lost count of the no of other peoples 'stuck' filters I have unscrewed this way over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainer_t Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Try what Nick wrote, and additionally wear rubber gloves. The filters do even stick more to the rubber than to the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_schoedel Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Check your local dollar stores for jar openers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabseye Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Listen to Nick and Rainer. The freezer doesn't work. Forget the freezer. I got my filter + step-down ring stuck exactly as you described. I tried the freezer thing. Both items contract at roughly the same ratio. Put the filters down on a rubber mat. Use fingertips of one hand only against the top one, and unscrew. Apply as LITTLE pressure as possible. The threads are binding against each other. If you press against the threads by cupping them in your hands they will never come apart. I felt stupid when I accidently freed mine, which NO AMOUNT OF FORCE could separate as long as I tried holding them in a conventional way. Lay them down flat on a rubber mat. They will slip apart as if lubed by butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Lay it on rubber, Then place another flat rubber surface, like a mouse pad, on top and use that to turn with the palm of your hand. The bottom rubber keeps the bottom filter from turning, and the top rubber turns the top filter (hopefully). James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akajohndoe Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Perhaps a local camera store might have some filter wrenches that they would use on you behalf? Otherwise, if the previous suggestions won't work, there's always the BFH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvp Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 You got a number of suggestions before. Did you attempt all of them, or just the freezer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehsa_lleighnore Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 i tried the wd40, the freezer, the palm, rubber bands, and the wrenches that belonged to the people at the local camera store. i'm off to find a rubber pad. this better work :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabseye Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 It will. Just don't squeeze the threaded area *at all*. Press down with fingertips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickwhite Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Sounds to me that if you've tried everything, including filter wrenches, that you probably have damaged/crossed the threads on the filters, so even if you part them they may well be unusable anyway (it would be much worse if one got jammed on an expensive lens!). I would question why you have the filters screwed together anyway, unless just to stack for storage - it is not good practice to use more than one filter at a time on a lens IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_dzambic Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Try holding the filters loosely in your hands, and try twisting them apart with very little pressure. Note I said very little pressure. Then keep rotating the filters around in your hands and try twisting them apart again with very little pressure. Keep rotating them around so that you're applying the very little pressure to different points on the filters. At some point as you're rotating them around and trying to twist them apart with very little pressure you just might be pleasantly surprised. In case it's not clear what I mean by rotating them around in your hand, let's say there's a brand name on the side of the filter. The first time you try loosening the filters with very little pressure, have the brand name at "12 o'clock". Then turn them so the name is at 2 o'clock and try again, then turn the name to 4 o'clock and try again, etc. Go "around the clock" a couple of times before you give up. Like I said, you might just be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvp Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 A college friend of mine used to opine, "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer." I'm afraid that may not apply here... It does sound like you've tried the gamut. I hope the last idea works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabseye Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Ok, I really want to know if they're still stuck .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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