david_fischer Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I just built a new desktop and now it's time for a monitor, I'm on a budget so i was thinking 200-280 price range. I don't need anything huge, 19-21". I would use it for photo editing, and digital work(cs3 and cad renderings). I know it's important to calibrate so i was planning on spending another 80 for that. What do you guys think would be my best option, I searched around allot but most the discussion on this site is about higher end monitors. Thanks, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabseye Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 The 8-bit Samsungs are a pretty good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_clark Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 How do you tell which ones are 8-bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_503771 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Pick a model, google it and read the specs. If it's 16.2 million colors, it's 6-bit. If it's 16.7 million, it's 8-bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary evans Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I just got the Samsung 226BW at Best Buy for $349. Slightly out of your price range, but worth the stretch quite honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_tanner Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I did a little write up a little bit ago on the six bit issue. But more interesting to you are the two links at the bottom that are helpful to find a good monitor: http://www.tannerphotography.net/lots_oths.php?year=My%20Hidden%20Files&sub=Monitor%20Selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
images_in_light_north_west Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4688 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer_jammer Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Ross,<br> One of the reviewers on the 2007 WFP stated that the panel doesn't display 4:3 images quite correctly and instead they are slightly stretched. Do you have one of these monitors? Do you find that to be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach_abubeker Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 ross would that monitor be 6 or 8 bit? i didnt see the spec on the page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_tanner Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 The 2007 is eight bit, the 207 is six bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach_abubeker Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thanks Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Jammer, I recently calibrated the 2007wfp for a client using his Spyder2Pro and I can say it's an excellent display FOR THE MONEY. Wouldn't mind having one for myself. It's not perfect due to it's slightly bluish native WP, but I corrected this using the OSD since my client had only a VGA connect and it calibrated a grayramp without much noticeable banding. It has an S-IPS panel which is good for getting great color accuracy and viewing angles. You can tell if it has this type of panel by looking for the letter "L"=(LG) at the end of the serial number on the back of the panel. If it has an "S" it uses a Samsung S-PVA panel, not the greatest on viewing angles but very good for gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach_abubeker Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 "...You can tell if it has this type of panel by looking for the letter "L"=(LG) at the end of the serial number on the back of the panel. If it has an "S" it uses a Samsung S-PVA panel..." how can one tell before purchase of the unit? ie from newegg.com or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 The majority of the later revision models have the S-IPS panel on the 2007wfp. The 2007fp nonwide screen is more in question, however. As for confirming this it would be best to buy from someone that can actually look at the back of the display, but we all know that can't happen. You could also just keep returning it until you do get one with this type of panel, but that's a major PIA. I mainly brought this fact up about this particular model to illustrate the current state of the LCD industry which-pardon the Forest Gump cliche'- is like getting a box of chocolates...you never know what you're gonna' get. ;) A ton of post exist on this very issue with all LCD's. The manufacturers including panel type within their specs seems to not be a priority with these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
images_in_light_north_west Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 They are great monitors, I would buy another, as a matter of fact I am comsidering thier 27", I also have an apple 20 wide which is very nice but expensive, it is not that big a deal as long as you calibrate and take good photos. Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_tanner Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I believe all the widescreen (talking about the Dell 2007) are the S-IPS from LG. And yeah some of the fullscreen are not S_IPS, but are instead S-PVA which is still lots better than TN from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diane_madura Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 In your price range, HP W2007 (20 inch). http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2157325,00.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_fischer Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 okay well i think i've narrowed it down to three, the 204B, 204BW, and 205BW. They all seem pretty much the same but i may be missing somthing, what do you guys think? 204B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001225 204BW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001087&Tpk=204BW 205BW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001081R&Tpk=205BW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_tanner Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 David, All three of those are six bit TN panels. If you don't care about your monitor than by all means go ahead, but I assume you asked because you wanted a better monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_tanner Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 That HP is also TN from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_fischer Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 really? i thought they were 8 bit, 16.7 million colors= 8 bit correct? Also i can spend $300 tops, $250 is what i'm shooting for because i have to buy calibration too. with that budget could i find something better than tn (S-IPS,S-PVA correct?), i couldn't find any but i'm pretty new to this i may be missing something. thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_fischer Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 sorry one more question, what would be the starting price on a s-ips/s-pva monitor, i'm looking right now but alot of websites don't say what type they are....thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_fischer Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 opps tim allready answered this question earlier nevermind... "You can tell if it has this type of panel by looking for the letter "L"=(LG) at the end of the serial number on the back of the panel. If it has an "S" it uses a Samsung S-PVA panel, not the greatest on viewing angles but very good for gaming." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_fischer Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 okay well i figured out how i got confused, accoarding to samungs website the 204b,204bw and 205bw are all 16.7, but on the links i posted to new egg only the 204b is 16.7. Since i've allready answered most my questions and posted four times in row i just have one more, Being on a budget is buying the 2007wpf really worth the extra $60? compared to the 204b (which is a 8 bit tn compared to a 8 bit S-IPS). I'm afraid your gonna say yes which means a poor college student we be poorer but it will be worth investment. thanks again guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_tanner Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I'm pretty sure all TN panels are six bit. When it says 16.7 million color that's marketing reports not an official standard. If you read my earlier post there is a link from my webpage that has a two links on it and one takes you to a dutch page where you can look up monitor type. I'd definitely recommend the Dell 2007 wfp and do it right rather than get a piece of junk and be down $200 with regrets. You get what you pay for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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