Schneider 110mm Super Symmar XL on 6x9

[robert_pellegrino]

I am seriously considering purchasing a Schneider 110mm Super Symmar XL to use with the 6x7 or 6x9 format. My intention is to use this lens on an Arca 6x9 F-line camera. I know that the image circle is certainly over-kill for this small format, but image high resolution is my goal. I welcome constructive comments and opinions regarding this lens selection on a roll film format. Are their any pit falls other than price with this combination??? Thanks for your input.

Bob P.

[andreas_carl]

I use this lens with my Arca 6x9 and am very satisfied!!! Have no

other 110 mm lens to compare it too, but I don't think you will be

disappointed.

 

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Pitfalls: Buying in US instead overseas and trying to screw on a 67mm

filter instead of 67EW (or spacer ring).

[neil_poulsen1]

A less expensive solution that would still give you plenty of coverage

would be a 120mm Apo-Symmar. It has an image circle of 179mm. But,

this lens would not work well for 4x5.

[michael_briggs2]

You could get excellent resolution at much lower cost with a

conventional plasmat design, e.g., 100 mm Apo-Symmar, 105 mm Nikkor-W,

100 m Apo-Sironar N. The Super-Symmar XL 110 mm has far more coverage

than you could possibly use (288 mm). As an example, the 100 mm

Apo-Symmar covers 145 mm and would allow lens displacements of 31 and

26 mm for 6x9. Some might find these displacements restrictive, in

which case the 110 XL might make sense. The 105 mm Nikkor-W has a bit

more coverage than the 100 mm lens, with a listed image circle of 155

mm. The need for coverage depends on your style and what type of

photography you do.

 

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Within their lesser coverage, the more conventional lenses give

excellent resolution. Using the 100 mm Apo-Symmar as an example

again, the MTF curves at f22 are extremely good out to a diameter of

about 116 mm:

http://www.schneideroptics.com/large/Datasheets/aposym/aposym5,6-100/aposym5,6-100p2.htm

Out to this radius in mm, the f22 MTF curves of the 100 mm Apo-Symmar

and of the Super-Symmar 110 XL are VERY similar. See

http://www.schneideroptics.com/large/super_symmar/110xl/mtf2.html

Of course, 116 mm diameter is only 40% of the coverage of the XL,

which is a crucial difference for larger formats.

[glenn_kroeger]

Bob:

 

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I would go with the 120 Apo-Symmar. In the center of the field, it is

as good or better than the 110XL. I use the 110XL on 4x5, but it is

large and relatively heavy and its advantages are lost on the smaller

format. Save your money for the new 80XL coming out next year, which

will be an ideal moderate-wide lens for 6x7/6x9.

 

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Glenn

[paul_owen]

Robert, IMHO try the 100mm Apo Symmar for 6x7 / 6x9. The lens is

superb as far as sharpness, colour reproduction, etc, etc. I use one

on a Silvestri and the results are stunning!! I also own the 110XL

for my Ebony. This lens is THE best for LF!! But is definitely

overkill for roll film use. In the UK a 110 xl will set you back

approx #900 (stirling) the 100mm costs a shade over #300 !! If you

must have the XL for roll film then I second the advice to wait for

the 80XL later this year (hopefully !!) Regards Paul

[robert_pellegrino]

Thanks for all of you input folks. I think that I'm still leaning

towards the 110XL for a couple of reasons. 1) Because this lens has

the potential to be used with several larger film formats. I

currently only have the 6x9, but I'm not ruling out going larger in

the future.

2) I think �or at least hope� that this lens would maintain a higher

level of optical performance when movements and close focusing are

simultaneously applied. I will certainly welcome feedback on this

issue because, my �beginners view camera reasoning� could be way off

base. Thanks again.

 

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Bob P.