stacy Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Do you think the curtain here makes or breaks this portrait? What do you think of it in general? I'll explain why I'm asking later so as not to bias your opinions :) Thanks!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_sirota1 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Breaks. It doesn't seem to contribute anything, and is certainly quite distracting. Unless I've got it backwards -- it's an excellent picture of the curtain, but the kid doesn't contribute anything and is certainly quite distracting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Perhaps let the curtain serve more as only a border in a more tightly-cropped version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicola inglis Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Well it is still a very appealing image. And it depends on the purpose, the curtain is very 'now' so it will place the portrait in an historical context. I think what I like is the boy's expression (and those goggles of course!) so I suppose in that respect the curtain is not 'make or break' for me. Nice curtain though :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I suppose it might work for a detergent ad. What is the context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yves_jalbert Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 To me it breaks it. I feel it could be left in the shot as it's interesting to see that the little kid is kind of hidding behind it. But there are two thing I don't like about it, and they both relate to the importance or weight of it's presence. First it's black and white and that is a strong element, so it attracts too much attention (a distraction from the main subject which is the little kid). Second, the end of the curtain is almost on the vertical line (imaginary line, rule of thirds) and located in that right area of the shot. That's an area where my eye is naturally attracted instead of the main subject which is right in the middle of the shot. So again, the first thing that really attracts my attention when i first look at the picture is that curtain instead of the kid. But it's a personnal opinion only. It's very hard to debate composition and it's often is a question of personnal taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 it's a non-sequiter. Maybe if it was shower curtain with an ocean motif? To go with those goggles you like so much :^)... t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewilliamson Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 First off, if the curtain is a prop that helps you get a worthwhile moment out of the kid that you wouldn't get otherwise, then it makes the photo. That's more important than any compositional issues. Second, you could crop that side of the photo a little harder. I understand why the curtain is there (because he's hiding behind it), but it's got a little more graphic weight than it needs. For future reference, I'd also suggest a background wall that's a few shades darker, so that the fleshtones popped harder from the background, right now junior is blending with the wall. The kid is cute, I like the goggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacy Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hmmm- ok. I guess I was wrong. I submitted this photo to the guy who handles my stock photos and he was of the opinion that the photo does not work because of the curtain. I think it does work with the curtain because it makes the little boy look sneaky and up to something...and the whole reason we got that expression was because of the curtain- plus- I love the curtain and it's strong graphics :) I talked him into taking it anyway so I guess we'll just have to see if it ever sells... And Tom- I swear I'm not making people wear the goggles (anymore)- now they just request the goggles :) Thanks so much for looking everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine_oostdyk Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Do you think it works better in b+w?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I'm with you Stacy - I like the curtain in the shot. Not sure why, but I do! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 The B&W shot might work if you are trying to sell the curtains. It hogs all the attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_dehart Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I don't think it is the curtain that breaks the photo, it is the PATTERN in the curtain. That currently is the major design element in the photo, when I think you want the child to be the main focus. My first inclination would be to try it with a black curtain and add some color to the child's clothes. Possibly light the child from the right to get an alternating dark/light pattern. Lots of ways to experiment here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yves_jalbert Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 <p><i>"Hmmm- ok. I guess I was wrong.</i></p> <p>Well, I don't think you were wrong. Like I said composition has some basic rules but it depends very much on personnal taste as well. I think the shot is excellent for the moment captured; the face of the subject. It's original and funny. And yes you are right, the curtain is an important piece of the shot. It's needed as it helps to convey the message that he's shy a little bit but also curious about something.</p> <p>The personnal opinion I was giving is that the curtain (again, in my opinion) was just too much important based on the reasons I gave. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the shot though. And I do like the colour as well. Black and white photos are nice but I like it more for serious portraits, close headshots and such. Not funny and lively material like this. So colour is the best choice here I think.</p> <p>However what I did here (as a suggestion), was to crop the shot a bit to give less importance to the curtain. It also brought back the face of the subject on both vertical and horizontal lines (rule of thirds again). When I look at this shot, the first thing that immediately attracts my eye is the face of the subject and the expression he has. There is no way around it, that's what I see immediately. The curtain is still present and is an important element, but it doesn't take over the importance of the main subject.</p> <p>You may like this version or not. Here's what I would have done with the shot, a simple crop adjustment. Nothing to change with the actual photo itself as I think it is a very good shot that could be used for profit.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacy Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 I see what you mean Yves- I think that crop does bring more attention to the little boy- Thanks! And I agree- I prefer color for this image. Thanks again everyone for your thoughts :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_m Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 The curtain is very distracting. Can't imagine why the photographer chose it! The kid, however, is adorable and 'makes' the shot - despite the curtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeccaskinner Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I like it in color and I like the curtain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofoto Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 For me it is the blue that distracts. Swap the pants for red/black/khaki and I think it works well in colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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