mattwhite Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I purchased a few boxes of the Polaroid 667 B&W film today. I loaded the film cartridge in the manner that I read in one of the posts here. I've managed to ruin two cartridges without one succesful picture. When I loaded the cartridge I noticed that the film is numbered 1-10 with 10 being the closest to the camera back and 1 being the closest to the rear of the cartridge. I loaded the back onto the camera, removed the dark slide then pulled the black tab through the slot on the side of the cartridge. I went out to my backyard and set the aperture to F16 and the shutter to 125. I managed to try all of the aperture settings as well as most of the shutter settings, of which I ruined 20 photos. Not a single one shows any exposure or anything at all on the paper. I as well tried leaving the film in the camera for 30 and 45 seconds after taking a photo before pulling on the white tab to remove it from the cartridge. Still, to no avail was there anything at all on the paper. I sure hope I'm doing something really stupid. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark liddell Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Leaving the film in the camera longer will do nothing. Polaroid is a pressure activated process (hence the rollers) you you need to expose, pull it out, *wait for the correct amount of time*, then peel it apart. If you did this I have no idea what is wrong. It sounds like you loaded it right. Don't do what I did and pull out the initial black tab through the wrong slot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwhite Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hmm, there is my problem. I took the rollers out after reading a post that said to remove them. I googled a question for the loading process and the post I read said to remove them. I must have scanned over it too quickly as I removed the rollers. Now that I know the proper process, I'll run up and buy another box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Aren't the rollers part of the holder, not the film pack? On my Pola backs they are.In fact these have to be cleaned with alchohol occasionally. Developer goo can build up on them , and cause uneven rolling (development). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I would suggest slowing down a bit. Make one exposure, examine the results and if you get nothing on the film, you are obviously doing something wrong. Try to find out what is wroing and how to do it right. That is the whole point of Polaroid, to examine each exposure just after it is made. There is no need to waste two boxes and then find out you did something wrong all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwhite Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 I think I figured it out, for the most part. My main problem was the removed roller. I installed them as well as a new 667 Polaroid pack. After I pulled the initial black tab through the rollers I took a test shot which was over exposed. I turned the shutter speed up and the shot came out ok. Now another question. There is a dark brownish/gold line across the development. It seems that the space between the rollers is too tight causing the paper to be 'squeezed' a bit too tight. I'll post a scan tomorrow. Thanks, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark liddell Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Is the dark brown/gold line about the same width as the white tabs by any chance? I had this problem is it was caused by pulling out the initial black tab through the wrong slot. You should NOT pull it out through the slot with the little door thing that the 'roid comes out from, you pull it through the thin slot behind that where the tab naturally sits after loading even if the angle is weird it is right. Don't try and poke it through the other slot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwhite Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 Yup, that's what I did. I pulled the initial black slot through the opening with the little sprung door. If I pull the next set through the opening before I close the film back, how are the white tabs going to make it through the rollers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwhite Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 A couple of test shots. 1.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stephenwood Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 The white tabs don't go through the rollers. You pull them out of the other slot and it pulls the film tab through the rollers. Grasp that and pull. Say "Polaroid" as you are pulling it as to not pull too fast or slow. I also had this issue when I first started. No instructions with the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwhite Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 I'm trying to picture how that will work. I'll give it a shot on the last cartridge I have. Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot_n Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Loading a Polaroid back: - Don't take out the rollers - Don't feed anything THROUGH the rollers. Just drop the Polaroid film pack into the Polaroid back and close it. Pull out the protection paper and you're ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarashnat Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Yes, the problem with the Polaroid backs for new users is that loading the back is easier than one expects and instead of just loading the film pack and closing the back, many try to feed tabs through rollers or into slots. I was lucky that the back I purchased came with the instructions. I thought that they were missing something, but the loading procedure is deceptively simple. Simpler than loading a roll film back. One thing you may want to make sure of is to occasionally check that the rollers are clear of chemical residue. An accumulation of gunk there could effect the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark liddell Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Taras, you are exactly right. What really doesn't help is that the instructions physically on the back are for how to remove the roller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean-louis llech Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Matt,<br> Visit the Polaroid website, and download the files concerning the Polaroid backs and films. <a href="http://www.polaroid.com/service/userGuides.jsp?ATR_ServiceHT=Object+ID%3A+8163873836275835&ATR_ServiceMRH=Object+ID%3A+8163873836275834&__TYPE=9&attrUptodate=true&createDt=2007-04-06+13%3A20%3A32&createdBy=2%2C256%2C197%2C860%2C196%2C362&createdByUser=Zwinggi%2C+Nick&folderID=2%2C534%2C374%2C302%2C034%2C978&label=Pro+Photography&modifiedBy=2%2C256%2C197%2C860%2C196%2C353&modifiedByUser=BLUE+MARTINI%2C+Default+Admin&modifyDt=2007-05-03+14%3A46%3A22&name=ProPhotography&objectType=9&parentObjectType=SUB_ASSORTMENT&path=%2FAssortments%2FService%2FService%2FUserGuides%2FInstantImaging%2FProPhotography&priority=30&pubVersion=139&sba_id=2534374302034981&sba_parent_id=2%2C534%2C374%2C302%2C034%2C978&shortDesc=Pro+Photography&status_cd=A&bmUID=1180188621837">Here is the link </a> to film data sheets and holders guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean-louis llech Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Matt,<br> I forget to say : several guides and manuals for products which are no more manufactured have been removed from the Polaroid site.<br> If you need one, I will send it to you. I have the complete collection of films and backs manuals. Just ask for it.<br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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