ray . Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 I asked a simialar question awhile back about 21mm...... For M film cameras, what are- if any- the alternatives to the Elmarit M 24mm or Voigtlander 25mm w/adaptor for these focal lengths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 sorry..... <i>similar</i> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 The only other 24/25 alternative I can think of would be the ZM 25 f2.8, a very good lens by the way. “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_eavis Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 The Zeiss 25mm is marvellously sharp across the image. It is a useful focal range on a non-crop film and crop digital. They go for $800-$900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 If you were only shootng subjects very far away, like landscape work, you could get an adapter and use any number of 24mm SLR Nikkor lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_lee2 Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 There's an old Canon screwmount in 25mm, but probably not very easy to find (and compared to the Voigtlander, not very cheap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keirst Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 The Biogon 25mm ZM is drop-dead marvelous, and a bargain compared to the Leica 24mm ASPH. It's <i>far better</i> than the Nikkors (which have a lot of coma softening the corners until well stopped down), and it's a smaller lens, though long for an RF lens. The Biogon is RF coupled to 0.7 meters then uncoupled down to 0.5m, unlike the current Voigtländer which is a stop slower than the Zeiss. The Voigtländer 25mm brightline external finder is very good, though not as nice or well made as my Zeiss 21mm finder, so the Zeiss 25/28mm finder is probably a notch better.<br><br> A Biogon 25mm sample: <a href="http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~keirst/city/boston34.html">Street Shoving Match, Boston, MA, 2006</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 The Canon 25/3.5 ($350 to $650), W-Nikkor-C 25/4 (>$1,100), 25mm ZM (perhaps the sharpest of all the 24/25 out there) and others. The first two have severe light fall off. The CV and the Biogon are far better in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Soon (May) Voigtlander will have a small RF coupled 25/4 in M mount. It will go for about 50,000 yen, meaning around 40,000. I think that is a viable alternative to the current Voigtlander 25/4, the excellent but heavy and expensive Elmarit 24/2.8 and the less expensive and heavy and excellent Zeiss 25.2.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Heavy? Get ye to a gym. ;*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbg32 Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Apparently the new Voigtlander 25 has the same optical formula as the non-coupled version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 The 25mm f/2.8 biogon is an excellent lens in pretty much every way. It is definitely worth considering. The Leica 24mm is also superb, but far more expensive. I have not used the CV 25mm, but I did have the 21mm -- a good lens, but nowhere near the 21mm biogon, which is not as good as the 25mm biogon (I have both). The 25mm is the best wider than 35mm lens I have used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james mitchell dc Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Ray, if you don't have the Leica 24, get it. I like it much more than the Zeiss 25. The Leica works better on the M8 too. The 21mm lenses are more of a bargain outside of Leica. I really like the Kobalux 21/2.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_a Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 The Leica 24mm is absolutely, completely stunning. I've used mine a lot and find no flaw at all. I've read nice things about the ZM 25mm but have a very hard time imagining that its better than the Leica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keirst Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I have a very hard time believing the Leica 24mm is better than the Zeiss 25mm for film cameras. The Biogon 25mm's better than some Leica lenses I used to have, like the 35mm Summicron ASPH. The 24mm Elmarit is much more M8 compatible though, bringing up the right frameline for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Thew 25/2.8 Biogon is excellent. The Canon 25/3.5 is quite nice on the M8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I have the original, uncoupled 25mm C/V 1:4 on my IIIF. It's a great lens with a great finder(the later version with frameline) -- I don't miss the coupling: the DOF is enormous. Stephen is closing them out for $245, including finder, which sells alone for $128.00!!! Grab one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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