tim_robinson Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Ok with all this talk of lens sharpness what do you think is the sharpest lens of all?Forget the creamiest etc etc i,m talking detail, every wrinkle , can read a license plate from 100 miles away ,that sort of sharp. Oh and if you shoot colour then what film are we talking about??? B & W for me is tech pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro_lastra2 Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 The 100mm Apo Macro at F8 and at 1 meter. Close up portraits done this way will make you very unpopular. For film, my pick is Delta 100. Very fine grain and solid acutance. With the combo above you can duplicate medium format performance up to 16x magnification. After that, the film grains shows and tonality, close up, deteriorates. Tech pan is probably higher res, but is lower acutance and invisible grain make it look less sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Summicron 90mm APO asph M. Hands down, no contest. You get cuts on your eyeballs from looking at the images this lens produces. <p> Tech pan is awesome, yes, but more practical choices are Delta 100 and T-max 100, 'cause they are about as sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_page1 Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 In Leica R: Either of the current 180 APO lenses - Summicron or Elmarit; in Leica M: 90 APO ASPH Summicron. Tech Pan is not a general usage film, but is incredibly sharp. I probably would go with Delta 100 for general usage. Kodachrome 25 is the winner where contrast is concerned, but is discontinued. Provia 100 is probably next best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budc Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Somebody on the LUG said a Leica Rep told him it was the 28 SummicronM followed by the 90 APO SummicronM. Personally, I'm more interested in how the lens handles color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_london Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Hubble Telescope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 COMPLAN lens on Minox B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_schank Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 My current 50 Summicron and 90 Elmarit, especially at f5.6 to f8.0, are pushing the theoretical limits for 35mm camera optics. My other resolution champ is a 25 year old Nikon 55 f3.5 Micro Nikkor P-my sharpest Nikon lens. The detail that thing can resolve at f8.0 may be even be a bit higher than any of my Leica lenses, especially with subjects closer than about 10 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_karr Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Tim: <p> You just said lens. Ok, the two sharpest l have used are: <p> 1. Zeiss 1 x <p> 2. Leitz, APO, 100X oil immersion. <p> Both quite expensive, but very sharp. <p> Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergus_hammond Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 I just got from Glazer's in Seattle, where they're having a Leica Day. The rep said 28 Summicron M, then 90 APO Summicron M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_karr Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Great lenses: <p> Now, don't hold me to these names since they are coming from deep in my memory. I think it was something called a Welby, 75 mm Acculux [60's]. They dodged the problems with air to element by only using one element; they circumvented the problems of glass formulation by using plastic. <p> Unfortunately, we can't test one because they appear to have biodegraded. <b> <FONT COLOR="red"> :))</FONT> </b> <p> Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto_watson_garc_a Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 Acording to some writing found in the net, the US army rated the Summicron 50 D.R. as the sharpest, this in the sixties, and for aereal photography I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin_orthner Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 I believe the Nikon Ultra-Micro-Nikkor line of lenses was designed for extreme resolving power for copying circuit board microchips. As for Leica - Apollo (Command Modules?)used the M-Summicron 50mm for sighting stars for tracking purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilhelm Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 My sharpest lens is a 50mm f:1.4 SMCP Pentax, followed closely by DR Summicron. The Pentax has better contrast, too. The new Canon 50mm f:1.4 is in the same ball park. Great Bokeh on all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_foster Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 I have tried lots of Leica lenses. For the M series the sharpest to me still seems the good old 50mm Summicron. For the R, I was blown away with the 280/4 Apo Telyt. <p> Recently I have found the Zeiss 35mm Sonnar which happens to be in the new Contax T3 to be one of the sharpest lenses ever! Certaintly is as good as the 35mm Summicron ASPH at f5.6 and beyond. Maybe even f4! What a lens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 <h3> Performance per g </h3> <p> Performance per gram is an index = lpmm x format dimension divided by camera weight in g <p> The following is a few examples <PRE> <p> CAMERA lpmm format length weight performance per g Minox TLX 170 11 98 17 M6+50 'LUX 95 36 835 4 Hassy 503cx 75 56 1520 3 <p> Minox TLX not only has the sharpest photographic lens, but also has by far the highest performance to weight ratio of 17 vs only 4 of M6 <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> </PRE> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 Martin, did you think that up all by yourself? Clever, but let's not forget to state the units: lines per gram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_chefurka2 Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 "Lines per gram"? Sounds it should have more to do with mirrors and razor blades than lenses and test charts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilhelm Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 Unless you're shooting on TechPan, Gigabit or possibly Kodachrome 25, it doesn't make any difference how sharp the lens is, the information on the negative is limited by the resolution of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_karr Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 Silly me, who though we were talking about lens sharpness. I said: <p> <b> 1. Zeiss 1 x <p> 2. Leitz, APO, 100X oil immersion. </b> <p> When you take into account the scope and all of the attached computer equipment, I would lose on the lines per pound basis. <b> <FONT COLOR="red"> ;<))</FONT> </b> <p> Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 Paul - 50 points!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 Remember when the Space Shuttle made its first flight? If so, you'll also probably remember that at that time the Navy was taking 8mm (Yes, 8mm! I knew a guy on the P-3 Orion that photographed with it.) movies of it from something like 250 miles away, and noticed that one of the ceramic heat shield tiles had fallen off. <p> So, attention Martin: I seem to remember the tiles were 4" x 6" in size... What LPM would the lens have to resolve to be able to see a missing 4" tile at 250 miles? <p> And the bigger question is then: Does anybody know what lens was used on the Navy's 8mm spy cameras in the early 80's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 Canon 50mm macro breach lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 Bob, great idea lines per gram <p> lines per mm x mm / g = lines per gram ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 Bill, you are right, I am shooting Techical Pan, enlargeable to 10x12" with hardly visible grain. <p> I also shoot Agfapan apx 25 ( I saved two bulk rolls ) and PanF plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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