M8 in bright lights

[arthuryeo]

Just testing how the M8 behaves in bright lights ...

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A crop of the above

[vivek iyer]

How does that compare to images from a D2X?

[frederick_muller]

Saturation looks ok. And sharpness also looks quite good in #1 and #3. The issue here is that in each of the shots, the plane of focus does not dominate the frame - this gives the impression of an overall lack of sharpness.

[vivek iyer]

Saturation & sharpness are AOK.

[frederick_muller]

This may be straying off topic, but when I think of saturation, I think of standing in the Musee d'Orsay, looking at Van Goghs. Not Van Goghs in books, but Van Goghs for real. It's just stunning how different his work looks when you compare an original to a reproduction. Van Gogh saw the world like that, in colors that were just brilliantly saturated. And yeah, you could say they hurt your eyes. But that's how the genius saw things.

[vivek iyer]

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Rangefinder shot(not a leica, not a leica lens either :( )

[frederick_muller]

When I looked at #1 and #2 I was thinking exactly that about dynamic range, checking out the difference between the highlight at the corner of the bench and the shadow immediately to its left. I ended up concluding that the scene was not contrasty enough to really test the dynamic range of the sensor. It would be good to test the machine in a situation indoors, against a bright window and a sunny day outside ... some scene like that ...

[frederick_muller]

Again, just thinking about it, it's not enough for the scene to be contrasty. There have to be important details in both shadows and highlights that you want to keep. Then it would be a suitable scene for a test.

[rj]

Gotcha Arthur, I look forward to reading it.

 

"Sure where's the noose for non cult members. " Yeah, alright, whatever Allen

[rj]

Frederick has it right on showing dynamic range.

[vivek iyer]

To those who may be interested:

 

http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/14834-tonights-victims.html

 

This one (along with plenty others there) show how the M8 handles shadows and highlights. Many tests (in other threads) are reported with/without the IR cut filters as well.

[jack_lo_..._t_o]

Focus on the second one isn't perfect. One might then say: so what?

 

Here's # 1 with 30% saturation reduction (focus is clearly fine). Is it better? It's hard to say: thay make a lot of children's items with bright plastic (we have the technology).

 

I'm inclined to believe Arthur. If he bumped the saturation up because he likes it better, again-- so what? If he says he didn't, then I would guess that he didn't. We could all spring for plane fare for Al, plus taxi to the site of the photograph, and he could report on the colour correctness, or better, make his own pic.

 

I'm a little surprised at the apparent closeness. What is the minimum distance for the APO 90 anyway?<div></div>

[jerry_lehrer]

Leica Netters,

 

You think that the writers here are too contentious for you? Then go to the LUG (Leica Users Group and join in.

 

 

That group has a few superb picture contributors. The rest are a group of sycophants. Just a bunch of ass kissers who constantly ooh! and ahh~ over the works of the few. And they do it over and over again. Nobody will call a spade, "a spade".

 

Jerry

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[leslie_cheung]

Let see the M8 in lowlight. Who cares what the M8 can do in brightlight? Any point and

shoot can do well in brightlight.

[luke_neher]

Here here!

I'd say it's pretty hard to beat black and white film at 3200.

Nless you're digging the noise.

[karl_graf]

I would like to see some Leica M8 photos in "normal lighting," and with some blacks to see if the purple problem is still there.