travis2 Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hi..just wanna share with u.. <p> 10 years ago, I did my own B/W developing in my little bathroom. Got sick of it and gave up. Had been sending to lab with varying results. <p> I heard from someone that if u use Leicas, I should develop the films myself. <p> 10 years on, I developed my first few rolls. <p> Heres what I found. <p> I shot a roll using M3 and voigtlander 75/2.5 HP5+ using ilforso S 8 mins 1:9. Negs turned out flat and lack contrast. The prints were like film shot on delta 100..no grain, but SOFT, VERY SOFT. <p> I shot again using M3 and 50 sumicron, developed with the same materials and time. The negs this time were BRILLIANT. I could see the sharpness of the negs without a loupe and the contrast is totally different from the previous. The negs GLOW, let me tell u. <p> I can see it very clearly now...leica negs rates an 11/10 on my light table. And mind u, the 75/2.5 voigtlander is quite reputable. <p> just wanna share my experience. <p> ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_georg_wolf Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hello Travis, <p> would like to believe in the unbelievable, but perhaps there was a different aperture/ time setting altogether when exposing. <p> Maybe you try a second M and shoot identical subjects with the same settings alongside each other. The results - as far as density of the film etc. is concerned - should then be comparable. With the latest V/C-lens and an older LEITZ-lens the V/C-results ought to be even better. <p> Good shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis2 Posted February 27, 2002 Author Share Posted February 27, 2002 only the lens is different here. SAme body, same film, same developer, same afternoon light, same location. F5.6 1/500 all the way. Almost the same subjects. <p> I will try again to prove myself wrong. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander_grekhov Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Travis, try shooting a roll of slow slide film with both lenses and see if you see the same difference. My experience was very different from yours, but then you might have gotten a dud of a lens with 75/2.5. <p> Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonid Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Can you post an example of each ? When you get flat negatives , it would seem more likely that it is a chemical problem . Maybe there was a timing error in development ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis2 Posted February 27, 2002 Author Share Posted February 27, 2002 I will double check my developing routine again..timing has to be consistent, i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonid Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Just develop them at the same time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew1 Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Travis- Leonid is right- it sounds like a dev. problem. He's right, too, when he suggests shooting a roll through each lens and running them together in the same tank. <p> Myself, I'm no big fan of Ilfosol F. Try Rodinol, Acufin, Microphen, Microdol X, or HC110, Dilution B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Aww - come ON, guys! I can see a difference between my 90 TE and 90 'cron negatives: same film, same tank, same time. And those are both LEICA lenses - of the same focal length and built in the same era! <p> Travis - don't let them spoil your epiphany! Actually, I had mine looking at (boo hsss!) Contax-G negatives, but it's the same feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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