MTC Photography Posted July 2, 2001 Share Posted July 2, 2001 Centre D' Essais Chasseur d'Image tested a lot of Canon FD and EF lenses. They collected them into Dossier Canon. In this Canon lens test portfolio, there are only 2 awarded five star *****, the rest are<ul><li> 4 star 20 lenses <li> 3 star 23 lenses <li> 2 * 14 lenses</ul><p> The percentage of top 5 star lenses in Canon line up is only a dismal 3.4%about half of that of Nikon. <p> Among Nkon 80 lenses tested only 2 lenses are 2 star lenses<p> The percentage of lousy 2 * Canon lenses is 14 ! a woopping 23 %<p> The total number of 5 star and 4 star canon lenses amount to 22,less then 38%, while there are about 50% Nikon lenses are 5 and 4 stars.<p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gail_hammer1 Posted July 4, 2001 Share Posted July 4, 2001 Rob you are so right. Of course it is the person behind the camera. I have a Leica R4 with 3 great lenses and a Minolta Maxuum 7000 (which is supposed to be a lousy camera but somebody gave it to me so who am I to look a gift horse in the mouth...) with a Sigma zoom lens - two cameras seemingly two worlds apart but I have taken great photographs that I loved with the Minolta as well as with the Leica. I appreciate the dependability of a manual camera and I really like that I can shoot infra red film with the Leica but I am so fed up with having to feel insecure about my gear (the Minolta for instance) when really it's all about a photographer's vision and creativity. If you have to use a 20x loupe to see a difference then let's face it - there is no difference! <p> Gail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_rainey Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 This is more an answer to Simon Coates: yes the Canon f2.8 / 28mm -70mm zoom is one of the best lenses from Canon and sure it is expensive.... though not as much expensive as the leica glass. If you accept that it can do such a nice job as the leica combination 35mm f2/ 50mm f2/ 60mm f2.8 at the same cost as a single one of these prime lenses...... then, since yours is only a question of price, you should jump over the canon charriot. <p> Regards, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hughes1 Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 Leica is a cult more than a camera. While it might be worth joining that cult for an M rangefinder and its absolutely superb feel, ergonomics and cachet (I own an M3), the SLR's are another matter entirely, being many years behind the pack technologically. IMO Canon EOS rules the 35mm SLR world these days, with Nikon a struggling second. <p> I might get flamed for saying this--there are quite a few Leica fanatics out there who feel the need to vigorously defend their exorbitant purchases--but I believe that, as one poster said, high- end glass these days is going to be pretty much the same, regardless of the manufacturer. (It's the "Japan-ization" of the photo world.) If you want a retro look, get some older M (or SM) lenses. That's when a Leica was a Leica, and being so meant something. <p> http://www.ravenvision.com/peterhughes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hughes1 Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 I should also add that if your images are so weak that people are concentrating on the sharpness or lack thereof, instead of on the picture itself, then it simply doesn't matter which camera or lenses you shoot with. To put it another way, if you're poring over your negatives/sides with a 20x loupe trying to discern differences in sharpness between Leica, Canon and Nikon lenses, then you need to get out and shoot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapas_maiti4 Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 Peter <p> Well said!!! <p> Cheers <p> Tapas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carlos1 Posted August 9, 2001 Share Posted August 9, 2001 to me it isn't the contrast and sharpness that makes the overall impression, but more the content and composition. however, i do photograph using the m-series because its quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_robinson Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 Your a brave boy Robert ,saying those sort of things but good on you.Forget the 20 x lupes i think you should be able to see a better clarity in about a 10x8 print.Year after year.That is where i find a big advantage over Cannon or Nikon ZOOMS. In my experience with the Nikon 80-200,Cannon 70-200 and the cannon 28-70 they were very sharp when new but go soft when the tolerences loosen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_tai Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 Superior optics is a consideration but I like the Leica rangefinder because of the craftmanship, ergonomics, etc. as others have mentioned. But these days Leica AG seems to think "improvement" = "bigger" which is the antithesis of why I like the M. Anyway there is no reason why your Leicas can't coexist with your Nikon/Canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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