joe_bailey2 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I know that light from the key and fill add together. I want to see if any others here meter this way. I used to meter each light individually to establish the ratios. Example: I'd set the Key at f11.0 and Fill at f8.0 metering each light individually. My final reading with both lights on was always a 1/2 stop brighter at f11.5. I used to have to move the lights an equal distance to get back to my working aperture of f11.0. Now (for this same ratio) I just set my Key at f8.5 and my fill at f5.6.5 (individually). The final reading is always f11.0 with both lights on. My exposure appears to be correct. Does anyone else meter this way? Is this a correct method? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickvandenberg Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 It all depends on your subject. Imagine taking a picture of a big cube, from the corner. Each of your lights would only illuminate one of the faces -- there would be little or no spill onto the opposite face. And therefore no additive increase in the exposure. Lighting a flat panel would be the exact opposite -- all light would be additive. And everything else is somewhere in-between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks short Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 "Imagine taking a picture of a big cube, from the corner. Each of your lights would only illuminate one of the faces..." One light on each side of the subject, as described above, is not the correct placement and relationship of key and fill light. The fill light should be placed above (or below) the lens, on the lens axis. A fill light placed properly that way will illuminate both sides of the "cube" or subject equally. A second light placed anywhere other than on the lens axis is not a fill light, it's a second light. As a second light it will create it's own second set of shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_bailey2 Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Thanks for the responses. I forgot to mention that my fill is on camera axis. The key of off to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclain swift Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I meter my lights to get the ratios I want by pointing the meter at the light sources. I then set my shooting aperture off the main light. This is how Dean Collins did it and I seem to prefer my results with this method over the other methods of metering the combined flashes or pointing the meter at the camera instead of the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyrandy Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'd be interested to know what Mclain Swift's meter said as opposed to what you shot at in your 11-08-06 gallery of Jessica. Those shots are exceptionally well done. They seem nice and bright without being over exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclain swift Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Which shots of Jessica in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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