stephen_fassman Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Would this lens better compliment the 18-70 kit lens vs buying the 18-200 instead, as the"kit" lens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_scotland Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I've had the 18-200mm VR for about six months now (never been off the camera since I got it) and I've ordered the 70-300mm (which is expected in the UK this week). The big selling point on both of these lenses - for me - is the VR facility. The two lens together will give me VR from 18mm right through to 450mm (I'm using a D50 until my wife picks up the hints I've been dropping about how wonderful a D80 wold be !). The ability to handhold and produce sharp images even at slower shutter speeds is a big bonus. Hope this helps. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_in_PA Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Stephen, I too might want one, but it has not been reviewed yet, as no one has seen it. But with the 18-200 on, I find that I almost never run out of reach at either direction. The huge advantage THAT lens has is that you can have one lens on the camera for walk-around vacation style photography. changing lenses outside is a pain. The 18-200 would not, in short, complement your 18-70. It would replace it. If the 70-300 is any good, it would complement, imho, either of those lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klix Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 IMHO, the 18-70mm is better (sharper, more contrast, less distortion) at 18mm to 70mm compared to the 18-200mm. The super zoom has the VR advantage. However, IMHO, VR has greater value on the long end than the wide end. If the 70-300mm VR proves to be at least the same level of quality as the 18-70mm, then I would rather have the 2-lens combo (18-70mm and 70-300mm VR) rather than the all in one zoom. KL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot1 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 The difference between 200mm and 300mm is insignificant. If you don't want to constantly change lenses, go with the 18-200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 If you add a 1.4x teleconverter to a 200mm/f2.8 lens, you'll have a 280mm/f4 lens. That is something quite a few people attempt to do, as there is clearly a fairly significant difference between a 200mm and 280mm. Incidentally, the 70-300mm AF-S VR is being delivered in Asia and Europe now: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=21188576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klix Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 <i>The difference between 200mm and 300mm is insignificant</i> <p><p> About as insignificant as the difference between basketball and baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean.wette Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I have the 18-200mm and have been wondering whether I also want to get the 70-300mm VR. I'd be using this for endurance (ALMS) sports car races. Is the difference between 200 and 300 really that insignificant, or would it be worthwhile? I would like something longer than 200mm, but it needs to work handheld (mostly in daylight). I don't want to carry a tripod around the track, in addition to other supplies (water, scanner w/headphones, etc). Maybe a monopod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Whether something is "significant" is a matter of opinions. Something "significant" to you might not be significant to me. Speaking of cars, here is a comparison between two shots taken by a 200mm and a 300mm. I put an outline for 300mm in the 200mm shot. At least to me, the difference is pretty big. If you shoot car races, I would get a lens that reaches to 300mm, and I would at least try to use a monopod, although the 70-300mm VR has no tripod collar.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean.wette Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Shun: Thanks for the comparison shot. I think that's enough to convince me getting the 70-300. I'm new to all this (coming from a Canon G2), so trying to sort out the equipment I'll need. What's a decent monopod? Nothing to break the bank, but light enough and collapsible for straping to my backpack, but still support the weight of my D200 kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean.wette Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I have another question about this. We will also attend the Formula 1 USGP this year at Indy. For race day, we will have good seats (Stand A Penthouse), so for that I could take a tripod (which I still need to get). The race is mid-day in June, so usually plenty of light. For this case, would it be possible to put a 1.4x or 1.7x TC on this lens? I assume that will make the lens no faster than f/8 or f/11? Would it still AF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I am not sure which TC can fit the 70-300mm AF-S VR. In any case, my experience is that Nikon AF pretty much reaches its limit at f5.6. If your combo's maximum aperture is f8, AF is close to hopeless. Additionally, optically, I kind of doubt that you'll get good results adding a 1.4x TC on a rather slow zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik_loza Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 There is one thing we can all count on: There will be a comprehensive review of this lens very soon by Ken Rockwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbilder Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 to Shun: Indeed, the tripod collar is a thing I miss on the 70-300 VR. It is a long lens, especially zoomed out at 300 mm. The VR cannot replace the use of a tripod. But Nikon has a good tradition not to give lenses a tripod collar in the first batch. Look at the first version of the 80-200 AF. Best wishes Axel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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