Konica Hexar RF

[paul hart]

Does anyone have any experience of using M lenses with the Hexar RF? I've read comments that they might not be totally compatible (focussing problems?)

 

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And how does the Hexar compare with the M series - the M7 in particular?

[francisco_moran]

Estimado colega.

 

Llevo varios dias buscando informacion sobre los objetivos

Voigtlander, concretamente sobre el 21mm, 25mm, 35mm 1.7 Ultron.

Hace poco me compre la telemetrica konica Hexar rf. Estoy muy

contento con ella y me gustaria tener varios objetivos.Me gustan los

angulares pero, le tengo un poco de miedo a las distorsiones que

provocan. Podrias aconsejarme que hacer?. Cual de estos dos objetivos

me compro, el Color Skopar 21mm f/4 o el Snashot Skopar 25mm f/4?.

Me decanto seguro sobre el Ultron 35mm f/1.7 que pienso tenerlo como

objetivo standar pero, no lo tendo claro con el 21 y el 25. ¿Podrias

aconsejarme?.

 

Un cordial saludo

Francisco Moran.

Barcelona - Spain

[steve_b.3]

I agree with Francisco Moran, whatever he said.

[chris_chen4]

Try the browsing archives, there have been @ least 2 threads on this

issue in the past month.

[nicholas_rab1]

Francisco,

 

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Yo tengo el Ultron 35mm con mi Hexar, y me gusto mucho, pero es muy

grande para un 35mm. Si podre hacerlo otravez me compra el 35mm

classico f/2.5 que es mas pequeno. Para los 25mm y 21mm, sabes que

el 25mm no tiene el "rangefinder coupling", no se en espanol, pero

para foco neccessitas conjetura. Si puedo comprar uno de estos, yo

prefiero el 21mm. Apologías para me espanol, hace mucho tiempo que

yo escrito.

[andy_piper2]

Paul - scroll down to the bottom of the intro page for this Leica site

and look through the archived lists "Leica M" and "Leica vs....."

There's at least a year's worth of old comments, test results some

within the past month) etc..

 

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The very short answer is the jury is still out on whether there is a

real (and if real, significant) compatability problem.

 

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I went through 3 RFs and gave up - but NOT because of "compatability"

problems. I just couldn't get the RFs low-magnification finder to focus

consistently with ANY 90mm lens (including Konica's). The secondary RF

image just wobbles around, depending on eye position, so I could never

tell, when the images were aligned, whether it was because the lens was

actually focused correctly, or simply because of where my eye was

behind the finder. Lots of soft pictures WITH THE LONG LENS.

 

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But I never had trouble with 21/28/35 lenses.

 

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Finder problems aside: The Hexar RF has auto-load, auto-wind,

autorewind, flash sync speed 1/125, top shutter speed 1/4000, no TTL

flash. The M7 has manual load, manual wind/rewind, syncs at 1/50

(except with special HSS Metz flash that syncs up to 1/1000), top speed

1/1000, TTL flash metering. The M6 is like the M7, except no

autoexposure and no HSS flash sync (1/50th only).

 

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The Hexar's electronic shutter/metering results in a slight lag/delay/

pause when shooting fast (as with most electronic cameras) but no more

than with a good SLR. The Leica Ms (including the M7, according to

early reviews) fire very very quickly - great for catching transient

gestures/expressions.

 

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The Hexar is only available with .60 viewfinder, great for wideangle

work - The Leica M6/7 are available with .72 finder (standard) and also

.58 (wide) and .85 (high-mag) finders.

 

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The Leicas are of exceptional 'build quality'.

 

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The Konica is very good - at least on a par with top-end Nikon/Canon/

Contax SLRs. Metal body shell, tightly fitted controls, etc.

 

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I've gone back to Ms because fast shutter response and better focusing

with a 90 are more important to me than the auto-goodies. But that's a

personal kind of choice.

[richie chishty]

Here's one translation: :-)</p>

Dear colleague. I take to several days looking for information on the

Voigtlander objectives, concretely on 21mm, 25mm, 35mm 1,7 Ultron.

Recently it buys the konica telemetrica Hexar RF I am very contented

with her and I gustaria to have several objetivos.Me like the angular

ones but, I have a little to him fear to the distortions that cause.

Podrias to advise to me that to do. As of these two objectives I buy

myself, the Skopar Color 21mm f/4 or the Snashot Skopar 25mm f/4. I

praise/pour off safe on the Ultron 35mm f/1.7 that I think to have it

like objective to standar but, not tendo clear with the 21 and the

25. Podrias to advise to me. A warm greeting Francisco Dwells.

Barcelona - Spain -- Francisco Dwells (f.moran@wanadoo.es), May 24,

2002.

[richie chishty]

Here's the other message translated by BabelFish. :-)</p>

Francisco, I have the Ultron 35mm with my Hexar, and I like much, but

he is very great for 35mm. If podre to make it otravez buys 35mm to

me classico f/2.5 that is but pequeno. For 25mm and 21mm, you know

that 25mm does not have "to rangefinder coupling", not in espanol,

but for center neccessitas it conjectures. If I can buy one of these,

I prefer 21mm. Vindications for me espanol, long ago that written I. -

- Nícolas (nicholas_rab@hotmail.com), May 24, 2002.

[nicholas_rab1]

Wow, that makes my spanish look even worse than it is!

[francisco_moran]

How can I use a polarizater filter with my hexar rf?.Do you know same

trick?.

[jorge_ortega1]

Nikc,

 

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Actually the translation is not good at all. Your spanish is much

better than that.

[rob - atlanta, ga usa]

My Hexar RF seems to focus right on the money. At least I can't see

any problems after testing it everyway I can think of. However, I

did contact Ken Ruth at Photography on Bald Mountain. 831-423-4465

(He was recommended by Bob Shell on another forum) Ken estimates

that it will cost UNDER $100 for him to adjust the back focus, if

needed, and re-adjust the range finder. For that price, I am going

to ship my Hexar off to him after the holidays. I will be very

surprised if I am able to see any difference, but it is worth $100 to

me. Bought the kit with flash and 50mm. My total net cost for the

body, flash, neck strap, display case, and shipping was $872 after

selling the 50mm lens. Add another $100 for Ken to check and adjust

if necessary. So, for $972 I feel that I got one hell of deal on an

M8.

[nicholas_rab1]

Oh, yeah, a on-topic answer.

 

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No problems focusing my Hexar. If there is a delay in the shutter,

it is short enough that I cannot detect it. It probably is not the

best choice if you are shooting 90's all the time (along with the .58

leica), but would be fine for the occasional shot. I have also never

noticed any problems with 3rd party lenses on it. Would I rather

have a M7? Absolutely, as long as I was not paying for it. Of

course you can buy a complete RF kit (with 28mm, 50mm, & 90mm) for

about $500 less than the M7 body alone.

[francisco_moran]

Siento no poder explicarme mejor en ingles.

Volvere a repetir mi pregunta.

Siempre he utilizado filtros con mi nikon obteniendo exelentes

colores saturados.Puedo hacer lo mismo con mi hexar rf?. Posiblemente

los usuarios de este tipo de camaras telemetricas deben de tener

algun truco. Leica dispone de un sistema pero es demasiado caro.

Un saludo.

Francisco Moran.

[nicholas_rab1]

Francisco, creo que el systema de leica es el unico que existe para

usando este tipo de filtro. Como mucho de las cosas Leica, es

demasiado caro.

[roger_michel]

of all the many many mant things that have been written on these pages

about the hexar rf, fransisco's comments are by far the most

informative and useful to me.

[francisco_moran]

Aprovecho el interes que existe, y la presencia de alguien que tiene

mucha experiencia con la hexar rf para lanzar otra pregunta.

tienen algunos de los objetivos de voigtlander mejor calidad en

definicion y contraste que los objetivos diseñados para la hexar rf?.

Hablo del hexagon 28 frente al ultron aspherico 28 1.9. y del hexafon

90mm frente al apo lanthar 90mm 2.5

Tengo entendido que con Voigtlander solo pagas la optica. Es esto

cierto?.

Es cierto que los objetivos de voigtlander, el 21mm y el 25mm

reproducen una calidad parecida a los primeros leica?

[paul hart]

Muchas gracias for all your responses to my pregunta about the Konica

Hexar RF. Mi espanol es un poco rusty but es veinte anos since I did

A level espanol y he olvidado mucho since then. Adios!

[kelly_flanigan1]

Francisco; yo agreee con la declaración de Andy. Leica trabaja mejor

con largo 90mm lentillas. La agudeza buena consistant es difícil con

no Leica cámaras. La amplia distancia de las ventanas del telémetro

Leica da la agudeza buena. Kelly

[dante_stella1]

I have put compatibility notes at

 

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http://www.dantestella.com/technical/hexarrf.html

 

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Look near the bottom; there is a chart of combinations which

have tested successfully (none have been unsuccessful, but I

don't have reports on every single lens made -- yet).

 

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I have not reported on the 35/1.7 Ultron and the 135/2.8

Tele-Elmarit, but I just received messages from people who

have used those successfully.

[Alex_Es]

Friends, Amigos!

 

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I've had no problems with lenses up to 50mm. After that focusing is a

bit tricky. Interestingly the goggle-eyed 135/2.8 works very well on

the Hexar.

 

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alex