troyammons Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Rollei 6008I, Is there anything I should know about these before I try one out ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 http://www.photo.net/equipment/rollei/6008 might be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyammons Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 any inherent problems, lockups, or major bugs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Frame spacing can be a problem. It is all done with some electronic (analog) magic in the film back. Unevenly spaced and even overlapping frames are certainly a possibility. Do a test roll of E6 before trusting the camera/back combo. The batteries are useless if you don't use/charge them regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wim_van_velzen Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I have one too - these are great cameras. The battery can go dead after a couple of years though. <p> <a href="http://www.fotografiewimvanvelzen.nl/webarticle03.htm">Wim</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Great camera. Some bodies had a few solder points which *could* fail, if so its a 'circut board' replacement. Mines been brillant since that repair 4-5 years ago. Great lenses, get the PQS if you can and laugh in the face of full sunlight fill flash, except maybe not with the TTL SCA system, I've never used mine in TTL so there you go. Crazy good metering, even in Auto. Battery is not really too much of an issue, perhaps if you are nicad challenged it would be but basic photo battery common sense works well. Be warned, once you get used to using Rolleis, RZ/Hassey use start to annoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyammons Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 You mean the $3000 pqs lens ?? Ouch. Is it that much sharper than a HFT lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_caramanna Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Troy Like many here, I have numerous formats and camera manufacturer types. Of them all, the Rollei is my favorite and just a stunning piece of equipment. I purchased a 6008I only to sell it to fund a canon eos 1ds purchase. I missed it from the day it was gone and have purchased a 6008af. Warranty issues have really pissed me off - especially in the USA but this isnt the cameras fault but rather the crappy representation here. The technicians in NJ are certainly competent but forget about getting anything covered under warranty. I suspect these guys are on a dollar and euro free diet and left to fend for themselves. The cameras are sturdy and reliable, just a great camera. This is from a former and current owner. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morwen_thistlethwaite Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Wonderful camera, with lenses to match. I don't take it anywhere without the Schneider 90mm PQS. I too experienced the broken circuit board problem, but it was repaired in a few days under warranty by Robert White. The battery issue is minor - just have a spare on hand, and be prepared for greatly reduced capacity if it's exposed to freezing weather.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyammons Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 You have any full size crops. How many rolls in cold weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morwen_thistlethwaite Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The above image is an entire frame, taken with the 90mm - 7674x7689 pixels after scanning. Here are two detail crops: the first at 100% resolution and the second at 60%. I'm a heavy user of batteries as I always lock the mirror for a few seconds before taking the shot, to minimize vibration. I've found that if a battery gets to freezing it will only last about 6-8 rolls. The thing to do is to keep it in a warm pocket when possible. At normal temperatures the battery lasts so long I lose count of the number of rolls.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morwen_thistlethwaite Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Second crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyammons Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 What scanner ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince_n.2 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Better off with the HASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyammons Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 I have not ruled that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I disagree. I have both a Hasselblad 203FE and a Rollei 6008AF and the only reason I have not sold the Hasselblad is because I have the 110 planar for it, and I got it for so little that buying it again in Rollei mount would mean losing 2000+ dollars. So I just keep the 203FE to use with the 110. The 6008AF is a much better system. The magazines alone make it so much nicer to use. The laminar dark slides and better pressure plate system are a relief, and the 645 back is amazing. It does 120 and 220 simply, and it switches from horizontal to vertical in seconds. Add to this the integrated winder, switchable metering system, LCD that is visible from without the pop magnifier, the 1/1000th leaf shuttered lenses, AF, more accurate electronic shutters, the 1/3 of a stop aperture settings, better ergonomics and the better lens selection (Schneider and Zeiss) and it is really a no- brainer. The only things that Hasselblad has going for it are market penetration (easier rental, repair and in-store representation), a cheaper used market and battery-free operation. Anyway, that's just my take. I am still new to the system, but it has made a big impression on me. Here are a few recent shots... <P><img src="http:// www.stuartrichardson.com/rob-underlit2.jpg"><P><img src="http:// www.stuartrichardson.com/mom-laugh.jpg"><P><img src="http:// www.stuartrichardson.com/loader2.jpg"><P><img src="http:// www.stuartrichardson.com/barnes-hill-rd-farm1.jpg"><P>The first was taken with an old (HFT) 150mm sonnar on a tripod, and the rest were taken with the 80mm f/2.8 Schneider handheld. On the tripod, it is sharper than the sonnar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_banister1 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 It's probably best not to try it out in the rain if you're borrowing it from someone you like. Usually it's not a problem, but sometimes it is. If you buy one, I can recommend that you get a spare battery, two or three extra film inserts for the back, and, if you plan to use it on a tipod, the electric remote release. The 6008i2 and AF do a somewhat better job with TTL fill flash than does the 6008i if that's important to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nee_sung Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 If you are using it on a tripod, you may want to get the quick release. The first time I used it on a tripod. The camera went dead. Then I found out, probably on photo.net, that there are a lot of circuitry at the bottom and screwing a bit too tight and the circuit got shorted. I now have no problem after using the quick release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCULUS New York Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Bullet proof, best meter in business, digital back ready, SYSTEM in a compact ergonomic package (as opposed to Blad add-ons). What more do you need to know? Ray Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl_glover Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I owned a lot of 'Blad gear before trying out the 6008's and there's no comparison. Rollei makes a good, solid camera with incredible lenses - I don't even take a light meter with me any more as the camera's metering is rather good to say the least. After using one it does make a lot of other cameras seem a bit flimsy. An important point as stated by others is that it pays to have a few batteries just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bw Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I had one briefly - but switched to Hasselblad 500cm. The stripped- down battery-free 'blad siuted me more. I found I didnt need a motor winder or the associated NOISE when I took a shot. The very fact that Hasselblad has add-ons was a positive in my experience. Now its a metering knob a WLF and always ready to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq_gibran Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I would avoid one if you live in a high humidity environment such as say Florida and plan on using it outside often. I had a 6006 in the early 90's and the electronics did not tolerate changes in temperture and humidity at all. The camera would just stop working. Eventually, the electronic shutter in the lens fell apart as well. But, maybe they improved this with seals or something though I doubt it. Thats why I shoot old mechanical Rolleiflexes and Hasselblads now and, knock on wood, never ever have any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_hardy1 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I bought a 6008I in '98, and laid it down a while ago. After using all sorts of cameras (aps-c sized dslr, 35mm cameras, Holga, etc..) I used the Rollei this morning and fell in love with it all over again. Imagine, you just walk around compose, focus, shoot, confident that the exposure is dead on. A few months ago bought a Mamiya RZ system + three lenses, prism meter for the price of one lens for the Rollei. I really like the BIG negative, and it's pretty easy to use. It's BIG, and HEAVY, but really cool in it's bigness. I have a female photog friend who really dug it, even as I whined about it being too big. After playing with the Rollei, I rushed back home to to pick up my Hassy 501cm body and lens (wanted something battery free and small)from Fed Ex before wifey could get to it. It is surprising small, light and not so techy like the Rollei. After almost ten years the Rollei 6008I is still the most technologically advanced Med Format camera IMO. Now there is an AF in the 6008 and digital too, I think. As I described it to someone in '98, it's like a big Nikon (i guess that would have been an F5 at that time). The lenses can't be beat, easy to load film inserts and backs, great meter, motor drive, ALL integrated, (no clumsy add-ons). Troy, there is the issue of that battery though. (sigh) I think they lose their juice when they get old. The camera told me the battery was fully charged, but after 3 rolls (only) the charge starts to fall quickly. To be fair, it was 40 degrees here though. Luckily, batteries are cheap in the scheme of the Rollei 6008 system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwstutterheim Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 The only thing that does not really work with the 6008i is TTL fill-in flash. You will have to use non-TTL fill-in flash using the electronics of the flash unit rather than in-camera electronics to control the flash. If this is important to you look out for the 6008i2 with much improved TTL flash capabilities. Otherwise the 6008i is a perfect camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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