paul_bien Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Can someone suggest their preferences for a medium format enlarger that will be used solely for black and white? I'd like the future prospect of 6X9 but would settle for 6X7. Looking specifically for ease of use dialing in filters for variable contrast as well as high quality build.. Many thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikos peri Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Durst M670 VC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithdunlop Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I love my Saunders LPL (now by Omega). Rock solid, very smooth rail and focus, and built-in Ilford and Kodak filter sets. It also came out of the box in perfect alignment and has stayed that way for the last 3 years I've owned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene m Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Beseler 23C with a Dual Dichro head. Cheap, excellent and plentiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Paul,<br><br>The Durst M805 is the best 6x9 enlarger i know.<br>For black and white, dial-in filters are not so good. The system of illumination needs to change from condenser to diffusor, which takes away edge sharpness (Callier effect). So for B&W, a condenser head works best, even if that means putting large filters in a filter box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Interesting. St. Ansel had little good to say about condenser heads and seemed to prefer cold cathode heads (but he wasn't a big fan of PC/VC papers either) I couldn't afford one and was stuck with a Besseler 23c with the standard focusing condenser. I'd try and find the 23C-XL for the longer frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mona_chrome Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Bessler 23c is great and if you can get one, the zone vi VC cold light head is great. One reason Ansel didn't print on VC paper was that VC paper totally sucked in silver content back then and just couldn't perform very well in general. At that time, nothing was better than Oriental Seagull, which he had been using for some time up until his death. VC papers got much better by the mid-90's, but I haven't used any for awhile to know how things are fairing in the digital age. By the way, don't get a short enlarging lens. An 80mm might cover 6x9, but you should use at least a 105mm to get better coverage and less likely to vignette. The shorter lenses look at the negative edges at a greater angle than longer ones. As your negative gets bigger, and to the limits of the enlarger, this can cause vignettes. With digital so big and darkroom equipment being unloaded, I wonder if you wouldn't be happier with the bessler 4x5 which you may be able to get pretty cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 St. Ansel even didn't like cold cathode heads. He liked a head with a multitude of lamps, so he could dodge and burn using the enlarger head, instead of using masks below the lens. Gave him, St. Control Freak, more control. ;-)<br>Cold cathode heads are pretty useless (difficult at best) to use with VC-papers, since their spectrum is rather biased and uneven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mona_chrome Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Generally speaking, cold light is difficult for VC paper, but not the VC cold light heads! Some of these are better than others. The Zone VI one is the best I have used. Actually, St Ansel was using cold light heads for most of his printing at the end. The enlarger QG is referring to is the infamous lateral enlarger Ansel designed and built for large size prints from his 8x10 negs. He did use if from time to time, but was pretty much retired at least by the late 70's. At that point he showed it to visitors as a bit of an amusement, as it was quite an interesting device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_carpenter1 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 There is only one enlarge to my mind thats the devere 504, all you ever want up to 5 x4. Try and get one with the ilford MG head and control panel, twin 300w bulbs and easy to use. Big and strong, the very best of British Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_satalic2 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 The Saunders 4550 (4x5) with a color head is outstanding, especially with VC papers. I print b&w almost exclusively and find this to be the best compromise. They show up on eBay all the time, and now because of the rush to digital, they are reasonablly priced. You will eventually want to work with 6x9, and this enlarger can take you all the way to 4x5 for the about same price (on eBay) as the 6x9 enlargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 After using many types of enlargers over the last fourteen years I settled a Meopta Magnifax 4a with Meograde VC head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_mckinney Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I disagree about the DeVere 504. I have one and, just like the Omega 4x5 machines, it needs constant realignment. It seems that enlargers that have a hevy head resting on the negative carrier cannot stay in alignment. For ordinary purposes they may be okay but when you are printing large (and the lens is close to the negative) and want sharp grain corner to corner, you will be realigning almost every time you change negatives. I have the Leitz IC and have had the V35. These are always in perfect alignment. The Focomat IIC is also always aligned but you have to use the lenses that were made for it. These are quite out of date now. The corner to corner sharpness of the 60mm Focotar-2 is no match for that of the 50mm Rodagon-G in a 15x or larger print. I am going to look at Beseler and Durst machines because the negative carriers snap into position and have little weight on them so I'm hoping the lens stage and negative stage can stay in perfect alignment for at least a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard jepsen Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Ron, the last poster, mentioned you must use the Leitz lenses in the 11C. Kienzle Phototechnik's Primos Autofocus 69S is still manufactured and I believe is the same as the Leitz IIC. I understand the firm can retrofit new 50 and 105 optics in your old 11C. You can find them with a google search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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