matthewkane Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I'm curious... I find that I would like to shoot at 800 more often but never do because of the intensity of noise from the 10d. I'm saying within reason, say printed to 8x10.Is the 5D that much better than the 10 or 20D with this? I don't think I could afford a camera much more than the 5D but I thought I'd ask anyways. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I haven't compared it to a 20D but the 5D is impressive at ASA 800. Reports on the net that compare 5D noise to 20D noise are mixed. Some say it is a big difference, some say it is not. I don't know and I don't care much, because the 5D is a better camera. I can send you a shot at ASA 800 made with my 5D if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewkane Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 Yes please do, beatpoet79@yahoo.com Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Why not use a noise plugin? It takes a few seconds and they work wonders for such small print sizes. Nevertheless, ISO 800 on the 10D looks great to me on a 8 x 12 or 8 x 10. I normally view prints from 12-14 inches and can't see much noise. It only looks bad at 100% pixel size on a monitor. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_potts Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Every camera which was released after the 10D handles ISO 800 fairly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erin.e Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 No matter what camera you use, 10D, 20D, or 5D, noise will be apparent in any underexposed areas in low light photography and a noise reduction program is only a partial answer in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 <p>The only DSLR I've owned is my 20D, so I can't compare it to your 10D or to other DSLRs from personal experience. When researching it, I do recall seeing tests which showed that it had less higher-ISO noise than the 10D. But it's a matter of degrees; some DSLRs have less noise than others at 800, but all have some noise, and you could spend a fair bit of money upgrading to a newer DSLR and it may not buy you a substantial improvement in higher-ISO noise.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertshantz Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 <P>When I upgraded from the 10D to the 20D I made a few comparison tests at different ISOs -- none of which I kept. <P>My basic conclusion was that ISO 800 on the 20D was almost, but not quite, as good as ISO 400 on the 10D. <P>Based on the reports I've read on the web about the 5D vs. 20D comparison, I'd guess that the 5D at ISO 800 is probably as good, or maybe a little better, than ISO 400 on the 10D. <P>Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendy_setiadjie Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Based my experience, The 20D could give you terrific low Noise results at ISO 800. the higher grade such 5D, 1dmk2 and 1dsmk2 even give more pleasant pics than expected ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 See the actual noise samples in my review and decide for yourself whether there's any difference between the 20D and 5D. http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/5D/review2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 The 20D has slightly better noise performance at ISO 800+, but the 20D has a problem with banding. Forget about pushing to ISO 12800+ with the 20D. It's easily done on the 10D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmccracken Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 There are ways of dealing with noise post exposure. I found <b><a href=http://www.photo.net/learn/dark_noise/>this link</a> extremely</b> useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_nordling1 Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 As the acceptance for noise is a very personal thing I can only speak for my self, but I recently uppgraded from 10D to 5D. My experience is that while I never used anything higher than ISO 800 on my 10D, and then only as a last resort in low light situations, I now use ISO 1600 without any restrictions. I feel that ISO 1600 on 5D is far better than ISO 800 on 10D used to be. For me even ISO 3200 on 5D is usable, with the same restrictions I used to have for ISO 800 on 10D. I can not really say anything about the difference between 20D and 5D, as I have limited experience with the former. But I have the feeling that 5D is slightly better than 20D, but the difference is nowhere near the difference between 10D and either of 20D or 5D. /Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary petersen Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I shoot at any ISO the 20D is capable of and have good results. A bit of Noise Ninja will get rid of just about any noise.<b> <a href="http://www.pbase.com/alibaby/image/56505812&exif=Y">Here</a></b> is a full sized shot taken at ISO 800. This is straight from ACR in CS2 and has not had any other processing done to it other than conversion to sRGB and jpeg.<P>As long as you nail the exposure (under exposure is death) the 20D works well at high ISO. I read the 5D does even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric merrill Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Here's an actual size crop from the 5D shot at 800. <p> <center><img src="http://www.merrillphotography.com/canid/pics/060224_018.jpg"><p><img src="http://www.merrillphotography.com/canid/pics/060224_018_max.jpg"></center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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