fireandicefuel Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I have a Nikon D70 that I bought in November 2005. I have been researching filters lately and decided on the Hoya Pro1 Digital. I bought it two weeks ago. It is the clear protection multi coated filter. I just wanted something for protection only. Well I wanted to clean it and ended up using my lipstick style brush like this one http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/items/82375.jpg It turns out that I think it scratched it. It has quite a bit of very little bluish purplish markings on it in the shape that I wiped it pretty much. I am wondering why would it scratch so easily and what can I do to remedy this. I bought ROR ( residual oil remover ) from B&H thinking it was that but that didn't do anything. any help would be appreciated<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_olander1664878205 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Unless your brush was particularly dirty, I would doubt that you actually scratched it. More likely there was an oily substance on the brush that is giving you the marks. I would try "Eclipse" cleaning solution (methanol) and "PEC Pads" followed by "micro fiber" cleaning cloth. Unless you use a brush strictly for dusting off a lens, it can pick up oily residues from other surfaces that transfer to your lens. I use a hand blower and the above cleaning materials for lenses, but no brushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_hooper1 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 The coating on Hoya filters is pretty tuff and I don't believe a camel hair brush alone will will scratch this filter. There was more probably some oil or perhaps fine abrasive particles in the brush or on the filter surface before you started cleaning. Brushes are easily contaminated with skin oil. Try cleaning the filter again using 99% methyl or isopropyl alcohol with lens tissue (NOT eyeglass tissue which contains silicone) and finish up with a micro fiber cloth. You haven't been photographing around volcanoes lately, have you? One day while shooting at Volcanoes National Park in Hawaii, I cleaned a dust covered filter with some lens tissue and alcohol. Unfortunately, volcanic dust is extremely abrasive (pumice)and the filter was ruined. Effectively I had scoured the filter coating! Now, my method for cleaning filters contaminated this way is to thoroughly rinse them under a stream of warm water followed by drying with a micro fiber cloth. I think I would toss that brush and use lens cleaning tissue or a micro fiber cloth. I used ROR years ago and was not happy because of streaking and that was before multi-coated filters which are even more prone to streaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik_loza Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I experienced a similar things a few years ago with a Hoya SMC C-PL. Something got on it and in the course of trying to clean it off, an oily film developed that was never able to be removed, even with PEC-12. I could spread it around and thin it out, but it never disappeared. Ultimately, I tossed the filter and now stick with Nikon, B+W, or Heliopan. I'm not sure what technology Hoya uses to coat their filters with but theirs is the only brand I've ever used that experienced this issue. Sorry it has happened to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilanjan_sen Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I think you damaged the coating. There are explicit instructions to use only a soft cloth or lens tissue in the following page: http://www.thkphoto.com/products/hoya/coatings.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miha_steinb_cher Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Todd, You probably haven't scratched the filter. Hoya filters show thin layers of dirt on their surface much better than any other brand. Some call it a fault, but it may actually be a feature. Same amount of dirt on other filters would go unnoticed. All fancy cleaning liquids, lens tissues and pads are made for cleaning lenses. There's way easier way to clean filters (not polarisers). Wash the filter with warm water and generous amount of dishwashing liquid, rinse thoroughly and wipe with a microfibre cloth if needed. Best regards, Miha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron l Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Todd - You haven't scratched the filter. The color of the markings would be different. You've gotten oil or other contaminants on there is all. Could be from touching the bristles of your brush, a no-no. Use lens cleaner to get that stuff off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindy_h. Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I've had a problem with Hoya coatings smearing before. Any fluid I used would just push the oils around and make it worse. Until I tried "Formula MC", which cleaned it right up. I was able to go back and revive all of my Hoya filters that I thought were ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_brothers Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Wow I just read all the recent comments months later. I still have that bluish stuff on it and I took some advice from you guys. I bought the Formula MC from Peca. I just took a few snapshots Saturday at a wedding and I wanted to clean that off but I'm glad I stumbled upon my old post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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