Lyson/MIS inks for Epson R1800 Ultrachrome hi-gloss

[pjduncan]

I'm wondering if anyone has experience with third party ink sets to

replace the Epson Ultrachrome hi-gloss used in the R1800/R800

printers. I see that both Lyson and MIS have compatible inks as well

as continuous feed systems.

 

First question is whether anyone knows the archival qualities of these

two verse Epson inks.

 

Second, does anyone have an opinion about the two different continuous

flow ink setups (ease of installation and subsequent reliability) and

also simply using the MIS spongeless cartridges which can be refilled.

 

I see that Pacific Ink has their own supposedly pigment inks for the

R1800 which are less than half the price of Epson... but I assume

these don't have the same archival quality... anyone know about that?

 

Many thanks for any and all info. I've had my R1800 for about 2 weeks

and love it. But I've already burned through a lot of money on ink.

[roger_smith4]

I can only comment on bulk ink for MIS cartridges- cheap, and fairly easy- I highly recommend it. MIS ink longevity is supposed to be as good as Epson as they are carbon pigment-based inks. Paul Roark did some fade testing- see his site for details.

[pjduncan]

After investigating the Ink Republic site, one thing that makes me a little nervous is that they do a lot of comparing themselves to the competition, but it seems that what they say about sponges, etc. is not true of the current systems being offered by either MIS or Lyson which both also use spongeless cartridges with dampers and filters. It would seem those claims are either outdated or simply wrong.

 

One of the reviews that Ink Republic posted to their own site stated that the user didn't expect or get prints with quite as good quality as Epson ink. It is my impression that the Lyson CAVE inks actually are as good and possibly even better than Epson when it comes to blacks.

 

The Ink Republic CFS is cheaper than the Lyson, so I might try using it with Lyson CAVE inks.

[pjduncan]

Roger,

 

I assume the fading test on carbon pigment MIS ink you refer to is only their B/W inksets... that appears to be all that Paul Roark has tested.

 

I've tried to find something on Wilhelm comparing MIS, Lyson and Epson, but find that site rather difficult for locating what one is looking for. Does anyone know which Epson R800/R1800 compatible inks have been tested by Wilhelm?

[roger_smith4]

Paul Roark uses some color pigments as toners and has some comments at digitalblackandwhitetheprint about them. I think the take away was Cyan beats Magenta by far.

 

I think MIS and Ink Republic use the same Image Specialists ink.