Lest We Forget...

[kens]

I've penciled in September 11th, 2002, as a day off. I'm going to reflect on the day, go into The City with 1 camera, 1 lens, and 1 type of film, and shoot all day the other people of The City as they also reflect and ponder. I will spend pretty much the whole day in introspective silence and reflection. What are your plans?

[ken_prager]

Ken, That sounds like a great idea and I relate to your sentiments!!!

I really thought about what I'd be diong until now, but now I'm I

think I'll be doing much the same as you. Thanks for posting this on

the forum!

[ken_prager]

Sorry, I meant to say "I really HADN'T thought about what I'd be

doing until now"...

[andy_piper2]

I don't know if it will be ready by 2002, but SOMETIME I plan to stand

on whatever structure is built at Ground Zero with a list of the 3000+-

victims fron NY, PA and DC in my pocket - and just watch the Hudson

roll by on a beautiful day. I presume the Leica will accompany me.

[george_b1]

Pat and I went to the Washington Cathedral, went to the War Memorial Chapel, and prayed for the souls of those whose lives were

destroyed in those attacks. We couldn't bring ourselves to pick up our cameras. Instead, we just went and prayed for our friends

who died on that day - - - and those who we did not know who died also. We quietly said a special prayer for the person who said

"Let's Roll!" and who - - - along with his companion passengers - - - probably saved the Capitol of our Nation.

[msitaraman]

I plan to be at work- hopefully that is appropriate tribute to the

3000 people who died hard at work.

[nesrani]

I hope to be somewhere documenting the destruction and distortion of

civilian lives that has resulted and will continue to build up in the

War against Terror - i.e. the extension of the American Empire - for

which the WTC was just a shallow pretext. I doubt the WTC itself will

cross my mind, although the loss of life in the last six months

anywhere has been lamentable.

[paul_nelson2]

Well done mate! I have reflected on the effect on us out here in the

Australian Bush. In fact, the whole world has been affected. What I

like about the American diplomacy is that the Americans have adopted

the Wilsonian Doctrine. In other words, Ethics, Liberty, Equality,

and Democracy do matter. Don't get me wrong, at times the Septics

are hypocrats. But generally, Americans stand up for and are at the

leading edge for those things that will improve civility in this

world. I only have one thing to say to my Yank friends.....Lets Roll!

[alfie wang]

God bless America :)

[john_a.]

Ken,

Yes I also plan on taking that day off. I was in tribeca that day

and saw all the chaos first hand. I have been affected by the horror

of that day and must pay my respects at ground zero. If you plan to

come to NY let me know, we should hook up. Thanks for great topic.

[stefan www.randlkofer.co]

i plan to be gone travelling on that day for a couple of months, if

the US hasn't blown up east-asia by that time

[seth_honeyman]

I hope to do something - some volunteer activity - to help my fellow

Americans and to honor those brave professionals who rushed in to

save lives. I hope the rest of you saw the CBS special on the NYC

firefighters on Sunday. Those men and women are a precious memory.

[john_chan2]

The loss of life on Sept. 11 is lamentable but let us also remember

that many, many, many innocent Afgan civilians have paid with a bounty

of suffering in the aftermath. War is the ultimate example of man's

inhumanity to man... that's why some of the most powerful images are

documented during wars.

OT: RE: the American empire...

It seems that the next major hurdle for Bush is the escalating

political/economic tension between the USA and China. China will

become the next major powerhouse; of that I am sure. However, they

seem to want NOTHING to do with the States. And who can blame them?

Why do you need a trade partner who will sell you goods if they won't

give your consumer base any buying power? Just recently a document

was "leaked" from the White House stating that there were several

countries that they would consider nuking and China was one of them.

Coincidence or a ploy to get enough world attention to kickstart talks

with China?

 

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There are only three types of people when it comes to politics. Those

who manipulate, those who suffer, and those who are amused by it all.

[chris_chen4]

Huh? The fact is that China has chosen to pursue an export-driven

development strategy & the U.S. is China's largest export market,

whether China likes it or not. As protectionist as the U.S. can be

(as shown by the recent steel dispute), no other country is as willing

to buy Chinese products, which means U.S. consumers are doing more

than their share in increasing the buying power of Chinese consumers.

 

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As per China being a potential nuclear target of the U.S., get real!

Do you really think that China doesn't have the U.S. programmed into

its ICBMs (along w/India, Russia, & Japan)?

 

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It seems that the next major hurdle for Bush is the escalating

political/economic tension between the USA and China. China will

become the next major powerhouse; of that I am sure. However, they

seem to want NOTHING to do with the States. And who can blame them?

Why do you need a trade partner who will sell you goods if they won't

give your consumer base any buying power? Just recently a document was

"leaked" from the White House stating that there were several

countries that they would consider nuking and China was one of them.

Coincidence or a ploy to get enough world attention to kickstart talks

with China?

[peter_hughes1]

I bought a Canon 17-35 f/2.8L in memorial of all the fools who

believed the official version of the 911 tale. Dog bless Amerika.

[djphoto]

So what is the unofficial version, which presumably you would

consider more accurate, Peter?

[tony_rowlett2]

Yah, I'd like to know too, Peter, before your post gets deleted.

What a crackpot thing to say. I'm offended.

[nesrani]

Fee fie foe fum - I smell a conspiracy theory...

[mike dixon]

I heard the terrorist pilots were CIA operatives acting on orders from

the US government (in collaboration with the Roman Catholic Church and

secretly funded by the Jewish Banking Consortium) in order to provide

justification for the first round in the worldwide, systematic

slaughter and assimilation of all non-Judeo-Christian cultures. Wait

'til you see what they have in store for the Hindus and Buddhists . .

.

 

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(Did I leave out any of the usual suspects? Other than

extraterrestrials?)

 

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The "truth" as reported (and reported and reported and reported) is

horrible enough and reflects badly enough on everyone involved. Is it

really necessary to make things up?

[eliot]

Ken. Good for you. Whatever anyone can do to remember this day is a

good thing, in my mind. Unfortunately, the American public has a

very short memory (like a collective attention deficit syndrome).

There is a tendency to forget very quickly that which does not

directly affect people in their every day lives.

[jay_.]

Poltics isn't a topic I care to delve into (certainly not here), but

as regards the world's attitude toward the US War on Terrorism, sure

I'd like it if the people in other countries loved and respected us

for our ideals, but I'll settle for them fearing us for our military

and economic power if that's what it takes to keep us safe. And I

suspect that had those planes crashed into Beijing or Moscow instead

of NY, the Afghan citizenry--those innocent people being used as

human shields by murderous cowards hiding in caves--would not be

suffering any less right now.

[mrivers]

Yesterdays shots of the Pentagon ...

 

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<http://homepage.mac.com/mrivers/WTC/PhotoAlbum14.html>

 

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I understand that the plan is to have the entire job done by Sept.

11, 2002.

[andy_wagner1]

We as photographers have at our disposal, the most powerful tool to

change the world. Our Images display not only the beauty of our

surroundings, but also the uglynes and brutality that that we inflict

upon each other. As an example I offer Vietnam, the images returned

from that war not only changed the opinion of a nation, it changed

the view of the entire world. So I feel we should use our tool to

educate the world that the leaders of all nations primary obligation

is to ensure that thier citizens are safe and have the basic human

rights that they are entitled to

[nesrani]

Jay, we'd probably love and respect you for your ideals if they

weren't imposed with the big stick - and your post is indicative of

how prone the US is to resort to its use. It makes it hard for us to

take you at face value.

 

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I think it was Jung who said that a country's (or culture's) official

values are in a compensatory relationship with its actual actions and

policies. The US is the most predatory, aggressive country in the

world today, with a unique quota of sugary sentiment to back up its

role as the global rapist. We can only grasp at the straw that

history clearly demonstrates that all systems of domination and

oppression fail eventually.

 

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September 11th was a historical event - this means that it has its

place in a historical web of causes and effects, and can therefore

only be understood by looking at the preceding history.

Unfortunately, most US comment starts with the premise that it was a

unique event without reason or motive.

 

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Time to grow up.

[nesrani]

Andy, while I'd love to be able to agree with you, I think the

seventies are long over. The media are totally managed nowadays -

just look at the disgraceful, fawning, uncritical coverage of the

Gulf War in '91.