lee_berlik Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Please let me know what I'm doing wrong. I shot a picture in .NEF (raw) format, then used Photoshop Elements' Camera Raw Plug-in to make some adjustments to exposure and saturation. After saving the file in a different format (I tried JPG, Jpeg 2000, TIFF, and PRAW, and the results were the same each time), I noticed that the image looked a lot duller than the adjusted NEF file. Most noticeable is the decreased saturation. Both the NEF file and the saved alternate versions were created in Adobe RGB. Why can't I preserve the image colors when converting to different formats? Is this perhaps a monitor-calibration issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briany Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Lee, what program are you using to view the resulting file? If you're using Photoshop Elements and embedding the profile, I'd be surprised by this behavior, as I'm guessing it's colorspace aware. If you're using some freeware image viewer, it may be interpreting your image as if it were sRGB, in which case it would indeed look more dull. What happens when you use sRGB rather than Adobe RGB for your RAW conversion.. does the problem persist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400bpm Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 This would happen to me every time I did the "save for web" function/optimization feature. <p> Turns out the culprit was Photoshop's "proofing" settings (it's under the View menu in Photoshop CS2). I assume it's the same in Elements. By default the proofing setup for me was CMYK which has a wider gamut. Switching to "Monitor RGB" gave me the exact same colors as my output JPG. <p> Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Converting to working srgb prior to save for web also works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_berlik Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 Brian Y, I tried again, this time un-checking the Adobe RGB box in the "Save As" window. It didn't appear to make a difference. As far as I can tell, I'm not telling the program (Photoshop Elements 3.0) to save in sRGB at any point in the process. The picture was shot in Adobe RGB (Mode II in a Nikon D70), and the only check-box when converting to JPG says Adobe RGB. Here's one thing I did notice, though. The properties window for the NEF file indicates a color space of "Untagged RGB," whatever that means. Please keep the suggestions coming! Something's definitely wrong! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_berlik Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 Brian M-- I did not see any "proofing" settings in Elements. I did notice an "indexed color" mode as an option, which is not selected. (I have "RGB" selected as the mode). I am not saving to web. I am simply trying to "save as." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_berlik Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 Here's another thing I just noticed: "Bit depth" of the NEF file is 16; the JPG file says it has a bit depth of 8. Hmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_j Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I am actually having the same problem with PS CS2. I tried what Brian suggested (changing the "proofing" settings to Monitor RGB) and in my final jpeg photo did look a lot like my orginal RAW/NEF. However, I was not very happy with the results since all the adjustments I made to the image as a raw file where pretty much thrown out the window once I chaged from CMYK to Monito RGB. I have been taking photos for many years, but I just recently made the move to digital. I am somewhat frustated that what I see and save on Photoshop is not what I see on the web, or what comes back from the lab. I know that I must be doing something wrong along the way. Some one please help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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