rob_martin5 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Not so much a question as simply sharing a very stupid thing I did recently... I bought a "new" 503CW on ebay, and it was nearly immaculate except that the focusing screen was rather filthy--not scratched in any way- -just dirty. It actually looked as though someone had sneezed on it or something. I figured it would take a bit more than simply blowing it off with a duster, and I'd read that these screens are acrylic--not glass; so, lens cleaner would be a no-no. I decided to very gently wash it under warm running water with mild soap. It cleaned up quite nicely with no resulting scratches. The problem is that I hadn't realized that these screens apparently consist of two plates that are sandwiched together. Rinsing the screen under running water resulted in water/moisture being trapped between these plates. It's difficult for me to describe the appearance, but it seems to be slowly clearing up. I did this several days ago, and the adverse effect is all but gone now. I'm hoping it will completely clear up, but it's been a slow process. Dumb, dumb, dumb thing to have done, and I just thought I'd share it so someone else doesn't try the same thing. It might have (and, may still) cost me a new screen. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Don't beat yourself up: be patient -- water evaporates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_platt1 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Rob If the marks don't all disappear trying washing it again in distilled water (often aso sold as De-ionised water)This should dry completely clear as it will have no minerals in it. Advice for anyone else in the future. A cotton bud damped with distilled water probably would have done the job better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpj Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Stand it on EDGE, behind window glass, and where it can get some sunlight. (Glass filters ultraviolet light) Don't let it get "hot" but a couple of hours ought to drive out the water vapor that's trapped. It should be no problem unless you got some soap in there. If you have soap stains, then the distilled water suggestion is the way to go. For the future, there is a product out called "iKlear Apple Polish" which is sold in a pump- misting spray bottle and has no harmful stuff in it. It is designed for computer screens and especially Apple Computer flat panel displays found in their Powerbook portable computers. It works great and I use it all the time on my "plastic" eyeglasses as well as on the computer. It comes with a very fine, lint-free wiping cloth about 12 x 12 inches. Use only a very small amount. Check it out at www.KlearScreen.com PETE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenwah_lee Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I have the same experience like Rob but I later found out that you can take the pair of plates out of the metal frame which holds the two plates together. Then you can clean each plate separately. Of course you need to put them back together in it's original sequence and direction otherwise focusing will not be accurate. Happy New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_martin5 Posted January 1, 2006 Author Share Posted January 1, 2006 Interesting, Chenwah...I hadn't considered taking such a risk (e.g., deforming the frame structure, introducing dust between the plates, etc.). However, at this point the odd effects continue to linger with no apparent signs of further improvement. So, I just separated the plates, and I'm going to attempt to wash them with distilled water and see what happens. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 But be careful!<br>You know how much these thingies cost. And while the plastic bit is fairly 'safe', the glass is rather thin. The frame will never fit together as snug as it did originally, but that may be just a matter of cosmetics. Unless it is just that bit too much out of shape. Then it will be a matter if out-of-focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_martin5 Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Phew...well, I think I got it back together pretty well enough; and, it does look a whole lot better. In fact, aside from one tiny speck of dust I allowed to get between the plates, it looks as good as new. After so much handling of each piece, though, I'm only 99% sure I reassembled it correctly. The etched surface does go on the outside (facing downward, toward the mirror), right? I couldn't tell a difference in surfaces of the thin plate, but I think I replaced it as it was originally. I know it lies on top (as the screen sets in the camera). The camera appears to focus normally, although, I'm new to MF and don't have much of a point of reference. I'm finding it generally difficult to focus anyway but figure this just takes a bit of practice/experience. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Rob,<br><br>It certainly sounds like you got it the right way round, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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