steve_bray Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 If you have time please take a look at this gallery. http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?include=all&user_id=997968 In the nature section there are several images with very dark/black backgrounds. For example the flamingo and emu. How is this achieved? I have tried to replicate using Photoshop but with rubbish results compared to these. It� the fine edge detail that is difficult to deal with! And I can�t believe these are studio shots! Any Ideas or pointer would be helpful. Marina if you�re out there Fantastic work! Thanks in advance Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_fouche Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I do not know how it was done here, but there are many ways to accomplish something similar. If the background is very dark to begin with, it can be done using a "levels" adjustment layer containing a mask that keeps the adjustment from modifying the subject. If original background is not dark, one could either do a careful selection of the animal and paste it onto a new layer that has been filled with black (or other color of choice) or one could accomplish the same thing by putting a layer mask on the new-colored layer that masks out the shape of the animal. These techniques are not particularly advanced or difficult from, but the lighter and more diverse the background on the original image, the more time-consuming it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirk_funhoff2 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 My guess: flash and high f-value - subdues ambient light. Happy shooting, Dirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_sokal___dallas__tx Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Particularly the pelican getting the fish looks like flash with stopped down lens. Why don't you e-mail the photographer and ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bray Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Good points. Didnt think of that. Only been at this a year. Got a lot to learn. Could someone explain how this works please. Would but I can�t find an email address under Marinas portfolio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._smith Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Read the critique below the photos. She explains how it was done. http://www.photo.net/photo/3247748 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bray Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Ah that will teach me to read things properly. Thanks.But I guess the flash technique will help to start with? Please excuse my ignorance but as I say I am still quite a novice. Any advice on my Nature pictures would also be very welcome as that is the area I most enjoy. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._smith Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 You could use flash but your pictures will not have the natural look of day light. Any part of the animal that is reflective (eyes, beak, etc) wil need to be tamed later on in Photoshop. My suggestion is to forget about artificial lighting if you want any chance to achieve what you so admire in Marina's pictures. Do as Marina, wait till the light is low, the backround a little darker and use spot metering. It will take time and effort on your part. Be prepared to be disappointed with your first results but hang in there and you'll eventually get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think you'll want a long telephoto lens too. She's got an awesome portfolio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan2240 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Steve, This shot was a POW, and the resulting discussion revealed several ways to get a black background. In the case of this photo, it was simply shot against dark water, then adjusted some in photoshop. See the discussion here: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00D9II&tag= Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._smith Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Beau said: "I think you'll want a long telephoto lens too. She's got an awesome portfolio" Quite right Beau. Marina uses a 400mm telephoto lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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