will king Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I have a 20D. I am wondering if I will get any vignetting on my Canon 10-22mm lens with a thin Hoya Circular polarizer and a Cokin P series filter holder with a Sing Ray 3 stop GND filter. Does any body have this combination? I got the lens which I love but wanted to hold out on the polarizer and filter holder until I find out if it will vignette. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellavance Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 The slim HOYA will be OK, but if you stack filters, it won't work, at least at 10mm. I say this because I've tried using only my standard B+W Polarizer, and it darkens the corners. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_hutchins Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Cokin suggest that you use the z-pro rather than the p-series for wide angle lenses with a 77mm thread so I'd suspect that you will see some vignetting even without the polariser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgarity Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 At 10mm the lens vignettes very badly with a Hoya circular polarizer and a Hoya neutral density filter stacked together. I suspect your proposed setup would do the same. If you zoom up into the middle of the focal range you can probably get away with it. But its unlikely to work well at the short end. Polarization varies a great deal at across the sky. The wider the lens the more pronounced the effect will be. With an ultra wide focal length like 10mm that variation is going to show up big time and you can end up with color banding in the sky. It can be enough to ruin a photo. You can use a polarizer with wide angles but I think 10mm is just too wide for it to be practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_gross Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 No vignetting with 300D and Canon 10-22mm lens with thin Circular polarizer and a Cokin P series filter holder (three filter holder cut down to one filter holder). If you try and add a UV it will start to vignette. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Will, for optimal results the polarizer should always be the first filter that light hits on it's way into the lens. I use Lee filters, and have a wide angle adapter ring just for my 10-22, with only a single holder and 100*100mm polarizer attached there is no vinetting, When I attach dual holders (to allow rotation of both filters and polarizer), typically for an ND grad and polarizer combo, at certain rotations the 2 opposite corners will show very slight vignetting, it's a pain but not a showstopper: and it's one I can get rid of by removing the ability to stack as many filters on the holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge_garcia1 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I think I read on the Cokin documentation that the Z-PRO has to be reversed when the focal length is 20mm or less, so 10mm on a 1.6 crop body equiv to 16mm so yo must use it reversed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimadams Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Not sure about the Hoya filter, but I was getting some vignetting with a Tiffen used on a Canon 17-35mm when zoomed all the way out with the lens hood attached. A thin-mount filter solved the vignetting problem just fine, but the problem with using it was that the filter was so thin, there weren't enough threads in the filter to mount the lens hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will king Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 I got the Hoya thin circular polarizer and the square filter holder attaches on that where I'll slide the grad ND. I want to know if this particular setup will have a tendency to vingette at 10mm. Does anybody else have a solution/combination they would like to reccomend? Again, I want a circular polarizer with a grad nd, shooting at 10mm with little to no vignetting. Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_houtmeyers Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I have this Cokin p-system and it does vignette even used without a circular polarizer on a Canon 10-22. Its not the filter but the edge of the filterholder that gives the vignetting.Its visible until after 13mm.There's another problem with this cokin p series filter holder in situations when you stand with your back towards the light. The light somethimes falls on the back of the filter used and this light reflects between filter and filterholder back at the lenssurface.So you'll end up with photo's with very bright upper corners somethimes.I usually hold my hand just at the back of the filterholder to prevent this from happening( looks really stupid).Now i have bought the expensive x-pro holder and its usable with a slim polarizer without vignetting or reflections.Its very large though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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