sophiafield Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Hello,<p> I've been asked to work as a second photographer by an established wedding photography/ video team, however, I don't really have much of wedding photography experience.<br> But my question is...what should my hourly rate be for this kind of a job? They're offering to pay me by the hour, but what's confusing to me is that should I be charging them a bit extra per hour because I'll be giving them the rights to the photographs? <br> Anyone have any guess on what the average rate would be for something like this?<p> Thank you!<p> Sophia<br> <a href="http://www.sophiafield.com">www.sophiafield.com</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin cook - stratford upo Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I assume you are US. In the UK it's around $30 hrly for an inexperienced assistant. The bit about 'giving them the rights to the photographs' is not true. You work for them 'they' own the rights right from the beginning, they are not 'yours' at anytime I'm afraid, although you might ask for a licence to use for your own portfolio. They'll probably allow this but probably not for you to publish or advertise. I have a great assistant who helps me and I let her use her images as she wishes, but I retain the copyright at all times. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophiafield Posted March 31, 2006 Author Share Posted March 31, 2006 HI,<p> I am in San Francisco, California, US.<br> Sorry, I did forgot to specify that this isn't an assistant job, they usually shoot with two photographers, in a journalistic style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I'd guess between $30-50, depending on what you can negotiate, with possibility for increasing the rate as time goes on and you do good work. What did they offer? Kevin is right about the copyright. They own it from the beginning if you engage in an independent contractor type work situation. I would also specify a minimum number of hours, so you don't have to get all prepped for a one hour shoot for which you are paid $30 (or whatever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_schilling___chicago_ Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Sophia, This is almost the same question that brides will ask, as in how much should my photography cost for the day? There is a wide variation from studio to studio. If it's an established studio, they've already got the dollar amounts set....at this point are you looking for information to negotiate with? Talk to the studio owner, as you gain more experience and meet other shooters in your area you'll be able to have a better perspective on what your local market can bear. There is also a big difference between the title of 2nd shooter and an assistant who is also carrying a camera. Would also suggest that you do a search on prices & assistant pay and read those threads...this question gets asked with some freequency.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cary Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Sophia, You'll also want to ask them how you'll be paid. Mostly likely it will be via a 1099 so you'll need to understand the tax ramifications. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjogo Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 We pay $125 per hour ---depends on degree of experience. As per rights >> we give away the negatives--the B&G do with them as they please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 The man I apprenticed with paid me $50 a day c 1989. Now I hear his assistants get a whopping $125 for 12 hours of torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew1 Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I work with a group of other photographers who all do weddings. We all book our own jobs, and go with each other as second shooter/assistants. We generally pay $200-$350 per job, depending on the time involved and the duties we need from each other. I've never seen this as an hourly thing, but rather work it on a day rate, and throw in some more money if it goes way over on time. But doing the calculations, I figure it breaks down to between $40 and $50 per hour. Definately give/get a 1099 for taxes, if it's more than $700 per year from same employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophiafield Posted March 31, 2006 Author Share Posted March 31, 2006 Thank you so much for all of your input! :)<p> Sophia<br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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