bernard_frank Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Since I needed to do some trade-in, I had to let go of my Leica gear (I know, I regret it already... sort of), and I have pared it down to only a very nice Leica CL and the great Summicron 40. Now, I am looking into wide angle (21/24/28) and 90 mm for the CL. What would you recommend for a not too generous budget? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_touchon Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 CV 25mmf4 and Minolta 90mm F4 Rokkor (CLE version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frederick_muller Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 VC 15mm Heliar and 90mm APO Summicron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Fred--- I sincerely doubt if the short base RF of the CL could handlethe critical focus needed for an f2.0 90mm lens. Stick to f4 as "mother" intended. You will need an external viewfinder for a WA lens, so take your choice. I am trying out the Ikodot finder for 21mm and 35mm lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bernard, I have accumulated several Leicas since my first one in 1953, but the only one that always travels with me is my trusty CL with the 40mm Summicron. The 90mm f:4.0 tele Elmar "C" is a superb lens (and uses those same, miserable, series 5.5 filters), although I tend to carry the equally small f:2.8 Tele-Elmarit. I wonder if the 15mm Voigtlander/Cosina will work on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frederick_muller Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 How does the CL's base length compare to a Bessa R2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frederick_muller Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Hmmm, you are right Jerry. For some reason, I thought the base length of the CL was close to the base length of an R2 and I've had no problems focusing the APO 90mm on my R2. But I just foundt that the effective base length of the CL is 19mm compared to 25 for the R2, and 28 for the Minolta CLE. I guess the CL really is just too short for an APO 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 28mm is nicely spaced from 40, and is a very handy focal length. The 25mm VC is also a thought, but a lens that wide often takes in a little too much foreground (although there are other times when it's just right). And I would either go with the 90 f/4 that was made for the CL--either the Elmar-c or the Rokkor--or else consider a 90 tele-Elmarit. The latter may overtax the CL rangefinder when used at close range at f/2.8, but at greater range it should be fine. Focus is always accurate at infinity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bill, the 15mm VC Heliar clears the meter arm on the Leica CL no problem. The 25 would make a more all around useable inexpensive wide angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_shihanian Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 The 90/4 is a terrific value and was made for the CL, so its also a terrific match. On the wide side, if you're on a budget, get the 25/4 Skopar, but you'll need the accessory viewfinder. The Minolta 28/2.8 M-Rokkor is a nice way to go since you can just generalize that the view of the entire CL viewfinder covers approx. 28mm, but they're pricey, around $500, but in the Leica world, sometimes that's a steal! Most if not all of them will show some white spots around the outer edges of the front element, mine has some, but if its not too bad, it's not noticeable in the end result, the photos. I bought the 25 Skopar and then I found a 28 Rokkor. I keep both of them. My CL or Bessa kit is 25-28-40-75-90. The CV 75/2.5 is a really nice lens, you might try that instead of a 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyaitken Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 How about a CV 28mm f3.5 or a Kobalux 28mm f3.5 both are very compact (esp. the Kobalux) and make a great wide for the CL. I'd still go for the external finder - the whole frame on a CL is closer to 35mm than 28mm. Use my Kobalux on my CL a lot and I love the combination; really compact and a great street shooter. 90mm Summicron C also tough to beat at the price but do consider the CV 90mm f3.5 APO Lanthar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_matherson Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Bargain and compact lenses for a CL, my choices are Elmar-C 90mm f4 and Voigtlander 28mm f3.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lazzari Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I agree with Joel, the 40 cron that Bernard already has is fantastic. The 90 whether the f2.8 or f4 are simply little jewels. (I prefer the f2.8 because you can focus correctly with all M's) The 28 is a good separation from the 40 without the need for an extra viewfinder; Just use the blurry edges of the CL's viewfinder to approximate the framing. I have the 15mm APO Voigtlander and it works great on the CL, but the viewer makes for a more fragile and cumbersome feel, besides, it's just too wide most of the time. Go with Joel's simple, light and practical, it fits with the true original intent and design of the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul t Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 What Joel said. The 90 Elmar C is a terrific lens, not least because it's so portable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_simmons Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I leave the VC 25mm viewfinder on my CL all the time, whether I'm shooting the 40 or the 25. I used to have the 90mm f/4 Elmar, but sold it. I decided I only like using a rangefinder for wider lenses. I use a 90mm Summicron on a Leicaflex, as I like to previsualize out of focus feel when I shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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