larry d. Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I just visited one of my favorite web sites after a long spell away. Surprise! It seems that Dave Beckerman has returned to Leica film equipment. An old M3 to be exact. Take a look at his wonderful work. What a talent! <davebeckerman.com> LD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanphysics Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I don't really see the appeal. A lot of photographers I look at and think I could never do work like that. This one I look at and think if I lived in New York and shot black and white, my photos would look exactly like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hull Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Dave B. switches cameras, OMG! That is a shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Larry-- Good Lord! He has pictures of my old neighborhood in the Bronx. But no pictures of the Bronx H.S. of Science! Or NYU. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd frederick Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 The website is too difficult to navigate. I'm lazy! Hope that gives you a clue about website design! (^U^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 agree with Ocean; average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_spiers Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I misread the title and thought it said David Beckham! I'd be more than surprised if he ever started using an M3, although his wife was recently spotted using a Digilux with the lens cap still on. http://www.amateurphotographer.com/news/Posh_weilds_Leica_shoots_and_misses_news_69092.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wang3 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I am not surprised at all. After more than 50 years, there is no other rangefinders good enough to compete with M3. A good M3 has the most accurate focusing mechanism. It is superior as well in its mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hull Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 No rangefinder can compete, huh? There are a lot of ways many can compete. Hexar AF...quieter. Contax G2...faster focusing. M7 is quicker at reading light for metering. It really is an issue of taste, and not "competing". What a Leica board thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry d. Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ocean, I believe it's easier said than done. I don't think I have the the guts, or the talent to quit a full-time job (stop working for the man) and just concentrate solely on photography in a studio apartment in NY. Build a web site and run a daily forum for several years. For that alone I give him my full respect. Yes he's in NY, a content rich area, but that doesn't replace talent. The point I found interesting is that after using a M6 for many years, then a 2-3 year digital stint, he prefers a simple Leica. Not his ability to design web sites. Not the fact that he switched camera systems. But his own personal process and a growth. Oh yea, we've exchanged emails on occasion and he is truly a nice person. At least nicer than most... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ocean Physics, you're all wet as usual. You probably think that if you lived in Paris that your pictures would be as good as Cartier-Bresson. Dave Beckerman is an extraordinary person, and a great photographer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Bill Mitchell-- You are correct. David's photos are excellent, AND his website is a pleasure to navigate even with my antiquated computer. I just wish that he had photos of Arthur Ave and 187th street, (the Little Italy of the Bronx). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I don't really see the appeal. A lot of photographers I look at and think I could never do work like that. This one I look at and think if I lived in New York and shot black and white, my photos would look exactly like that. Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrybc Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Some of Dave's work is pretty good and he seems like a very nice person and I find him interesting to read, as well. What I particularly like is that he is candid about why he goes from camera to camera and isn't afraid to change his mind. Like another person has posted, I respect him for the courage to trust in his abilities as a photographer to earn himself a living. And I acknowledge his generosity in giving us a candid and entertaining look into that enterprise. larsbc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Thanks! This is huge. I'm a fan of his and was there when he went digital, and now he's back to film. He had a great blog on the Christo's Orange Curtains (whatever it's called!) in Central Park a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay bee Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I am a daily visitor to Dave's site and find his insights into photography as a profession most interesting. As one who lives in the NY metro area, I find his subject matter compelling as well. His talent is certainly in the eye of the beholder, but as others have noted his courage and generosity to those interested in learning more about photography are unquestionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 <I>I misread the title and thought it said David Beckham!</I><P>Great picture of Beckham's wife with the digilux with the lens cap still on. Usually that's a mistake that's more commonly made when using an M3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 He switched cameras again? Leica, Contax, Nikon, Canon, Rollei, LF.... You get the idea. So he's switched again. Yawn. every time he switches he talks up the current system as the best yet for him. You can even find his paen to the Contax G system on his site. And a year ago he was singing the praises of his Canon 7 body and lenses. What's amusing is seeing how someone moving (temporarily?) to Leica gear is seen as noteworthy enough for a post here. OTOH, I guess AMC Pacer forums fill up whenever an old model is briefly seen on a TV show too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I guess I'm the only one who remembers when someone in this forum breathlessly reported a couple of years ago that Beckerman sold his Leica. This is simply Leica- fanboy niche nutsiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Doesn't Beckerman say, himself, that he changed from a leica to other cameras and now coming back to leica? What's the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 geez Bill, this thread is filled with praise for Dave, what are you talking about "sour grapes"? i said they look average. and they do. looks like no final manipulation was taken during the printing process and appear as a high production site with straight scans from the neg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanphysics Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 <i>Ocean, I believe it's easier said than done. I don't think I have the the guts, or the talent to quit a full-time job (stop working for the man) and just concentrate solely on photography in a studio apartment in NY. Build a web site and run a daily forum for several years.</i><p>Courageous, yes. But that doesn't make me like his photography any better.<p><i>You probably think that if you lived in Paris that your pictures would be as good as Cartier-Bresson. Dave Beckerman is an extraordinary person, and a great photographer.</i><p>No, I certainly don't think that. But if you think this guy is anything like HCB, you should probably give up photography altogether, and/or see the eyecare specialist of your choice. I'm happy to know he's an extraordinary person, but again, that doesn't make me like his photos any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Earlier this year, Beckerman said that uppon reflection he thought his photos aimed for the look of a cover from the old Saturday Evening Post. Personally I do not find that, or his work, especially extraordinary, but I don't begrudge him his interests, and he does post the occasional nice shot. But it's sad when, as we all too regularly see here, fanboys feel the need to collect names of Leica users, or bemoan when someone 'leaves the fold,' or rejoices when someone buys a Leica (and actually uses it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wang3 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Mr Hull said,''No rangefinder can compete, huh? There are a lot of ways many can compete. Hexar AF...quieter. Contax G2...faster focusing. M7 is quicker at reading light for metering. It really is an issue of taste, and not "competing". What a Leica board thing to say.'' I don't think Hexar AF is quieter, it's electronic shutter is the same as G2, it is louder and more prone to vibration than M3. G2 certainly has faster focusing, but it fail to focus reliably,particularly at f2 for G45 at short distance. M7 has internal meter, M3 uses external meter, why is M7 quicker in reading light ? M3 is superior in many ways, no other rangefinders can compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay bee Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 What I find funny is that here is a guy who isn't a slave to Leica (evidenced by his transient use of different cameras) and this post gets knocked by the usual "Leica worship is rubbish" absurdities. To me it doesn't matter what he uses. Its his blog that keeps me coming back for more and his sincere effort to share his knowledge that I appreciate most of all. Was I offended when he went digital? Heck no. Am I happy he's shooting with Leica again? Maybe, in that his site was one of the first I discovered when I bought my M6 because his insights on the system useful. Perhaps now that he's back to film and Leica I'll learn even more. The fact that anyone deeply cares about any of this is silly, but is that why we post here at all? Photography isn't about curing cancer after all. The need of some here to constantly render critiques of other's work in an attempt to denigrate their qualifications or other's admiration is whats most unfortunate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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