steve_ege Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I have recently acquired the Coolscan 5000 ED and have begun scanning some old color negatives and slides. I am using the provided Nikon Scan software in OS X, Tiger, version 10.4. In general, I have been quite pleased with the results. However, when I load a 16 bit impage in Photoshop Elements 3.0, Mac version, and try to use the stamp tool (to eliminate some residual dust), I am advised by the program that the background layer is "partially locked." I am able to crop the image, but most menu items in photoshop are greyed out. If I convert the image to 8 bit, I am able to edit, a suggested work around in the Adobe Photoshop Support site. However, I would like to work with the nice 16 bit image. Is this a problem with the Nikon software, or do I need to upgrade to Photoshop CS to get more functionality with 16 bit images? The ICE feature works very well, and I am reluctant to try VueScan, as its infrared feature did not fare so well in a recent, uk, review. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel d Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 The majority of photo editing programs in the "inexpensive" category will only edit, or reserve most functionality for 8 bit images. Some such as Photoshop Elements explicitly force you to convert your images. Many others just convert your images for you. The only "inexpensive" photo editing software that allows most functionality with 16 bit images that I am aware of is Corel's Paintshop Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky2 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Ever heard of the term "Upgrade"? :( Full 16 bit editing is fairly new it is best supported (to date) by Photoshop CS2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greglyon Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I only use Photoshop, not elements but some of this may apply: 1) Images start out as 'background'. when they're background they cannot be edited in many ways. In photoshop you can double click on the background to convert it into a normal layer. That may fix your issue. 2) Another couple things to check...Some software does 'partially lock' images (a partial lock in Photoshop might be to lock position or editing of image and/or transparent pixels). In photoshop there ar small icons above the layers to toggle these partial locks in addition to the complete lock of a layer. 3) As previously stated, your software may not handle 16 bit images very well. It really took until Photoshop CS to get most of the functionality in the software available for 16 bit images. I'm not sure where Elements 3.0 fits in there though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_ege Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 Thanks for the comments. I double-checked the Adobe website, and it clearly states that Elements 3.0 supports 16 bit editing, which I assume includes the stamp tool. So something is coming over from Nikon Scan that is locking the image somehow, it seems. I have tried unlocking the small lock on the layer, as suggested in one of the comments, but nothing happens. When I double click on the layer, I'm informed its "partically locked." I will try scanning in Vuescan demo version, if that puts out 16 bit, and see what happens. Here is the URL for the Adobe reference: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopelmac/pdfs/psem_fhs_fnl.pdf Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_m3 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 On my PS Elements 3 on my Mac, I can crop, run neat image filter, adjust lighting and levels, but not use healing brush or stamp tools in 16 bit. I convert to 8 bit for those adjustments as my output is 8 bit jpeg for the most part anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_ege Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 Robert -- I get the same results in Elements 3.0 for Mac. Also, the help file says it only edits in 8 bit, which, of course, is not true. So Adobe needs to clean up its help file. I tried Vuescan 16 bit images and got the same "partially locked" error message. I guess I have to shell out $600 for CS2. Thanks for your comments. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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