cimino55 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Hello, I'm going to Africa with my Contax 645 and I am looking for a good ND filter to blur water in streams and waterfalls. I already have a Singh-Ray Warming Polarizer Plus which blocks light, but I am looking for a good ND grad. What is the ND grad you use most. I'll be using Fuji Velvia 50, 100 and Provia 100F on a tripod with cable release. I don't anticipate using more than 8 second exposures, but who knows? Is the .6ND the norm? Regards, Adam Cimino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_shively Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Are you looking for a graduated ND filter or standard ND filter? If you want a graduated neutral density filter, the Singh-Rays are among the best available. If you just want a standard ND filter, I like the selection from B+W. Both the graduated Singh-Rays and the B+Ws come in various strengths. The Singh-Rays also come in a selection of soft graduated, hard graduated, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_haas Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 If at a neutral setting, a polarizer filter functions well as a 1.5-2 stop neutral density filter. In general practice, a three stop N.D. filter is probably the most useful (filter factor eight equates to 0.90 on the logarithmic scale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimino55 Posted November 17, 2005 Author Share Posted November 17, 2005 Wayne, 3 stop would be .9ND correct? I have a Singh-Ray 2G-SS graduated filter. I am looking for a solid ND filter for waterfall and stream shots. .6ND or .9ND...what's your vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike butler Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Adam, I would think the 2-stop (.6) would cover almost all of your needs with the films you're using. Exposures of 1 sec. to 1/8 are usually sufficient if the water is moving at all. But some people like longer exposures. Have a great time (and keep that lovely camera out of the water and away from rhinos.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranong Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 i would say get the 3 stop. sometimes i think about stacking a couple of 3 stops, but i only have one. have fun. eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin_elliott Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I think the .9 is the minimum you should take. Even with a 2 stop using Velvia 50, I have found it insufficient to blur waterfalls. Depending on the lighting conditions,stopping your lens down to f22 and using the "sunny f16 rule" with Velvis 50 you will be facing a reading of 1/4sec @ f22 in bright sunlight with a .9. Depending upon distance and lens used, this is hardly sufficient to blur movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_nevin1 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Depends on the conditions of course, but I often find myself stacking a polarizer and a full ND (not graduated)on the lens, then using a big square lee graduated ND in front of the lens--sounds crude, but the bigger ones are easy enough to hand hold, and I can put it where it looks good. I've done 6 sec exposures (and a little longer) this way (and have only gotten my thumb in a couple of shots over the years). Even with the slow film speeds you're using, you'll probably need a fairly strong amount of ND to get a decently long exposure. . .even on strongly overcast days (best waterfall weather) I've found I've had to stack a couple ND's to get the longer exposure I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerfj24 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 <p>I am actually looking for my first ND filter myself. I have been reading alot of articles over the past few days, and I think I want two possible three nd filters. What is the best setup if anyone of you could go back and get a set of two or three nd filters what would you choose and why.<br> I am becoming interested in these because I want to start blurring water and streams, I went out the other day and kept blowing out my highlights and I couldnt get even close to what I wanted, so I dont even know where to start? I am using a canon 50d.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn7_p Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 <p>Singh-ray's vari-nd is a good option - one filter with which you can vary ND from 2 to 8 stops. However, see if they have it in the filter size you need.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guido_h Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 <p>I would suggest a 6 stop (64x) filter like the Hoya #106 for 100 ASA (or slower) film. This will get you into the range of several secs (taking reciprocity into account) in most cases; if not, you can always stack a polarizer on top for 1-2 more stops, which will give you some seconds more in that time range.<br /> I did all of these with the #106 and a 100 ASA film: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/41606243@N05/3836908432/">here</a> , <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/41606243@N05/3836908342/">here</a> , <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/41606243@N05/3836117757/">here</a> , and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/41606243@N05/3836117697/">here</a> .</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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