joshroot Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I'm looking for a small auto-flash with bounce, and preferably tilt as well. Given my choice, I'd like it if I could adjust manual power. NOT looking for any TTL compatibility. I don't have a TTL RF to use it on. Currently I am using a Sunpak 144d. Which works, but since it was supposed to "synch" with various camera system's flash technology, it isn't exactly what I want. And of course, I'm looking for soemthing that isn't huge. In truth, I want a smaller version of my SB-26. That flash does everything I could want. I'm sure that some people are against using a flash for their RF photography. But I really enjoy the look of photos with well done bounce flash.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 It will be difficult to find a 'smaller' (light weight or smaller size) with all the capability you want in a SB-26 in another. The SB-800 could be marginally lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hall1 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00AnDA&tag= http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=002iUo&tag= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_leong_lee Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Not a very well known brand, but Unomat is the one that has what you need. GN 24, bounce tilt and swivel, uses only 2AA, 2 auto ranges, 0.5-8 second recycle, 200-2000 flashes per set of batteries, flash sync cord, etc.-- what more could you want? See http://www.unomat.de/index.php?id=45 If you read German, the description is: Wie B 24 auto, jedoch mit Thyristorschaltung. Blitzfolgezeit 0,5-8 Sek. Blitzzahl bei Computerbetrieb ca 200-2000 Blitze pro Battariesatz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 sb-30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 actually man, it may just be the ticket if you want something smaller than the sb-26. http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/NikonF5/Flash/SB30/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 The SB-30 is certainly small and has some flexibility but it does not have the juices (flash output) of a real flash like the SB-26 or SB-800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiblanke Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I use an older Metz BCT 30 4 flash which I like to use with just about any camera I have. Concept, user interface and size are small and used these flashes run about 20 USD. Metz also has a new smaller series out which offer nice features in a small package, but since newer they also cost quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattalofs Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I've got 2 sb30's that I use with my hexars. Between the manual settings, the exposure compensation slider and the wide angle adapter, you have a lot of control over how much light you are dumping out. The auto settings work too. No bounce unless you put it on cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_barbano Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Mets CS 32 if you can find one; Metz CS 28, or Sunpak Auto 144 PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_barbano Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Wrong nomenclature; should have been 34 CS-2. BTW, stay away from the Metz 20BC-6; height too low and causes red eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael s. Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I have the little Nikon SB-15. Runs on 4 AA's (vs. the SB 30 - CR123). The head on the SB-15 rotates 180 and tilts 90 degrees. But it's older and heavier than the featherweight SB-30 and needs an adapter to cover 28mm, which I don't believe is the case with the SB-30. I didn't get it for rf, but for the FM2, a camera that doesn't have ttl flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Does the SB-30's TTL compatibility match up with the M7 TTL settings? I have a recollection of being warned that TTL capability does not run across camera lines, ie., not to use a TTL flash in TTL from Canon with a Nikon and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 I hade seen the SB-30 before, but what the heck is wrong with the Nikon design crew? They built the flash to tilt FORWARD? I guess they think people are more interested in macro than bounce photography. Andy, TTL flashes from one company usually will not work with camera bodies from another company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 Foo. That SB30 would be a great flash (in terms of features) if it just had tilt/bounce. I wonder if I could modify the foot somehow? Or built a little tilt/bounce foot adapter? Probably too much work. I'll probably just pick up the regular Sunpak 144 (not the weird "D" dedicated version I have now). A couple of the other flashed mentioned either don't offer the bounce I'm looking for, or are as big as my SB26. I suppose I could try and pick up the "non-digital" version of the SB-28. I'm guessing those might be slightly cheaper these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Josh, The SB-30 tilts forward because it was made for the Coolpixes. No need to contemplate altering it. All Plastic. It is a very versatile flash (for the size) but with limited application. If you want a cheaper and the most powerful of the SB- flashes (barring the hammerheads), go for the SB-24. This has more juice than any other (25, 26, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian304 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 I don't know a lot about flash photography. If I use the Sunpak144 or the Nikon sb30 on the Leica M7 or M6 TTL, do I set lens at either of the 2 or 4 (Nikon) auto flash f stops and the camera on the synch speed? I do understand I may need to adjust the flash for certain instances like fill flash or more natural looking photos. Is the way to do this by adjusting the ISO for a higher number so as to lower the output? thanks in advance! Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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