andi_h Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 <p>Greetings all! I posted this at fred miranda but I can use all thehelp I can get!</p> <p><ahref="http://deandi.com/adventure/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/harlingen/20050818.titoi">Lastnight I took these photos</a> and I'm going out to capture thisamazing event again tonight- I could use some pointers on how to getsome more effective shots.</p> <p>The four trees the birds are roosting in are on a single corner inJackson Street in downtown Harlingen. As you can see from some of theshots, Jackson pretty much runs east/west. I tried to shoot into thesunset for most of the.... "flocking"? The moon was rising from theother side of the street, of course. None of the buildings downtownare particularly tall, but there isn't a good vantage point from whichto get a more unobstructed view. I used a tripod on all, Nikon D70 onall.</p> <p>Shot 1: Well before sunset. 70-300mm lens, 270mm, 400ISO, 1/500th @f/5.6<br>Shot 2: 8:20pm (sunset at 8:06). 18-70mm lens, 18mm, 400ISO, 1/30th @f/4.5<br>Shot 3: 8:21pm. 18-70mm lens, 70mm, 640ISO, 1/80th @ f/4.5<br>Shot 4: 8:21pm, 18-70 lens, 38mm, 640ISO, 1/80th @ f/4.2 withspeedlight<br>Shot 5: 8:40pm, 70-300 lens, 210mm, 800ISO, 1/125th @ f/5 withspeedlight</p> <p>Any suggested shots for tonight? Suggested camera settings? I wouldlike to be able to freeze the motion in the sky without using theflash but I know that means bumping up the ISO. I have a hard timeshooting in sunset light, I never seem to get the right "look".</p> <p>I'd also like some tips on shooting the moon- I'd love to get thebirds silouetted across it, but that means waiting until it's nearlydark in that part of the sky and the moon is rather high (that's whenthe birds are really flocking). How to expose properly for the moonand still get the birds sharp?</p> <p>Any suggestions would be most appreciated, I'm hoping to reallyimprove on these this evening!</p> <p>Thanks in advance! </p> <p>Andi Hazelwood<br><a href="http://www.titoi.com">Titoi.com</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi_h Posted August 18, 2005 Author Share Posted August 18, 2005 <p><img src="http://images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/9939/orig/219541.jpg"></p> <p>Here's one where I attempted to show motion, but I'm not crazy about the results. 18mm, 200ISO, .4sec @ f/7.1</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marymac Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Andi - Thanks for sharing these photos - we don't get Purple Martins much in the SF Bay Area and certainly not 30000 of them at a time! I like the shots without flash best (2nd and 3rd shots) though it's good to have flash for that last shot so you can see how densly packed they are in the tree. One thing you could try would be to take some prints of these pictures to the businesses right there and see if they would let you get up on their roof to take more pictures this evening. Or you could try wearing a jacket and getting under the flock and shoot straight up as they pass (bird silhouettes against the dusky sky). If you don't like the colors you're getting you can probably do color corrections in Photoshop (or whatever software you use) to get the look you're trying for. Good luck! - Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg s Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Andi, Very cool! I like shots 2 thru 4. If it were me I would show up before sunset and plan ahead for the best composition of birds with the foreground, which I'm sure you will be doing anyway. :) I'd try to stay in the 1/80 sec or above range. Not sure if there are any options for using the headlights from a car for lighting... you may want to see what the possibilities are. Have fun! -Greg- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi_h Posted August 18, 2005 Author Share Posted August 18, 2005 Thanks both for the responses! Greg, I did attempt to get some car lights in a few different shots, but the timing was all off- the birds would swoop away, the car would show up then drive off, the birds would swarm back. Perhaps more luck tonight. It's amazing how fast the sun goes down when you don't want it to, I was really aware of the approaching darkness as I waited for the right shot to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg s Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Andi, I was thinking more about you using your car (won't drive off) if the angle of light isn't too low. An old award winning photo here once employed lights from a pickup truck to illuminate part of the foreground for a shot of a comet. FWIW... -Greg- WOuld love to witness the event, camera or no camera. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi_h Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 <a href="http://www.deandi.com/adventure/birds/" target="away">Just in case anyone is interested in seeing the following night's action...</a> Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi_h Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 <p>I note that people still visit the link in the original post, even though it's out of date- too bad I can't edit it to post the current link! For those who read this far down in the thread, <a href="http://deandi.com/adventure/node/199">here is the updated link</a> and <a href="http://www.deandi.com/adventure/birds">here is what I captured</a> the following night. Now that I've lived in Australia for over a year, this seems like a lifetime ago! Cheers.</p> <p>Andi Hazelwood<br><a href="http://www.andihazelwood.com">AndiHazelwood.com</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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