frank_yang Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hi I recently bought a 45mm GN lens but found that the focusing throw have a lot of play and when turn the focusing ring from end to end the elements dosn't seem to move in & out in proportion with the focusing throw. I bring it to my local camera repair shop and they tried for one hour but cannot and does not know how to take the lens apart? The shop told me they don't have a repair manul for this lens and even Nikon USA does not repair the GN Nikkor anymore. Does anyone out there can point me to a source that have experiance in rpairing this lens? Its a late production model with Nikkor-C coating and 765711 serial number. Any help appreciated. A copy for a repair manual will be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I had taken one of my samples apart for a clean. No problems for me (my sample, my risk!). The C version is rarer (expensive). Be careful with trying to get it fixed. Try to disengage the GN pin and keep it that way. If it focuses properly and works alright as a lens, best to leave it AS IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_yang Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 Can you tell me how did you take the lens apart? from the front or back? My repair shope have unscrew all screws on the lens and nothing seem to move. My guess is to unscrew the front cone shape funnel ring but I can't get it to move without defacing the ring so I leave it for now unless I'm sure that the way to take the lens apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 You might try a e-mail request to www.nikon.com in Japan. They may have a recommendation on a place to do a CLA on the lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_grigsby Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Just curious: what makes the C version more rare? I have a non-C that I like very much. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 "My repair shope have unscrew all screws on the lens and nothing seem to move." Frank, This clearly shows that these folks are incapable of doing anything worthwhile. You take the focus mechanism apart from the back. The "C"version was a late run. Purportedly made for one year before GN-Nikkor was discontinued. The origonal GN-Nikkor has a single coating. The "C"has NIC (or nikon integrated coating) which makes it less prone to flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_lin Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 <p>I have taken apart several older non-Ai Nikkor lenses but I have never tried the 45mm GN. What you normally do is to remove the 3 to 5 screws on the focus ring and then remove the focus ring itself. Once you have the focus ring removed, you should see a few more chrome or brass screws which secure the optical group of the lens to a mechnical focusing unit. With this GN lens, things are slightly more complicated, because the focus is mechanically linked to the aperture. You should disengage the "tab" first before tying to remove the foucs ring, I think. If the going gets too tough, you can try Peter Smith who is one of the most experienced Nikon repairman in the USA for this type of equipment. He used to have a website but he now only operates a store in ebay. You can do a search and send him an e-mail.</p> <p>As to which version is more valuable, well, I personally think the first version with 9 aperture blades is more interesting to collectors, altough the later versions are more useable. It really depends on what you are looking for.</p> <p>For more information, you can check out my website below which has an article about this 45mm GN lens.</p> The address is: <p> <a HREF = "http://www.matthewlin.com"> www.matthewlin.com </a> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante_stella Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Don't take it apart. That is normal behavior; the lens group stops moving near infinity. This is related to the hyperfocal behavior of the lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_warn Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 From your description, your lens IS working properly. The GN Nikkor does NOT have a focusing helicoid like a normal lens, it is focused by a cam similar to how a zoom lens works. The cam is used so that the focusing action can be "tuned" to match the movement of the aperture ring. That is also why the lens focuses in the "wrong" direction. As to your observation the the lens doesn't seem to move near infinity, that is all BECAUSE of the cam action. At long distances, the lens movement has to be reduced in order for it to track the aperture change with the distance. The result is that, at longer distances, the focusing ring has a lot of movement for a small change in the focus distance, IT IS COMPLETELY NORMAL. Because the lens movement is controlled by a cam riding in a slot, any wear will result in a bit of "slop" in the focusing action. I have had mine since it was brand new and it has always had a bit of "slop". You get used to it after a while and that slop really doesn't cause any problems with the images. Bottomline, if it aint broke, don't fix it, and your lens AINT BROKE. It is just "different" and you'll have to get used to it. If you can't adapt to the somewhat odd focusing, sell it and buy the newer "P" lens, it uses a standard focusing helicoid and will feel a lot more "normal". BTW, the new "P" lens is on my "buy" list. It's a very similar formula to the original and being capable of electronically communicating with the new cameras is a real plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan_wong Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 disengage the "tab" first ***************************** may I know how to do that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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