seth_albaum Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 With the help of some posts on here I was able to go to the Leica web page and determine that it is a IIF. It also has a leather case for the body and the light meter. I can't seem to find info on the light meter anywhere. It says "Leica Meter" on it with a big wheel. It also seems to work - I'm a little worried by what sort of power source would last that long!? Mounted on top is a 50mm viewfinder that is easier than the one built into the body to use. Over the lens is a metal hood. I took some pictures!! I'm bad at focusing this camera. My other camera is a Canon AE1 SLR. That issue aside, there are glowing balls of light all over the photo. Either there are little holes in the shutter or I have ghosts. I have no plans to sell it. My grandfather brought it over on the boat from Germany in 1951 planning to turn it into cash but never did. It was hardly used, if at all!!! But, it looks worn. He made it look "used" on purpose to fool customs after learning he might get in trouble for it. Does anyone know a good and trustworthy shop in Boston or Providence that can do repairs in house? Also.. about that light meter? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hughes Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 The selenium cell that powers the meter can last for decades but it does degrade over time. I have a Leica Meter MC that came with my M3 and it reads pretty close to accurate but I don't actually use it. If I were you I'd invest in new meter and set the Leica Meter aside. Others here will have good advice on having the camera serviced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Seth--- May I ask how Gramps made the camera "look used"? did he scratch the lens? Did he chip the Vulcanite? Did he abrade the chrome with sand paper? He would have been better off paying the small import tax. Your surest bet to get the camera serviced correctly, is to send it to Sherry Krauter. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_elwing Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 You say 'the photo'. Do all the photos have this effect? It could be flare from uncoated lens or facing into strong light. What lens is on it, how clear is it, and what does the shutter look like with the lens off, cocked and uncocked?? I am saying It's possible all is normal, but you can do a little Sherlock Holmes yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 The "little balls of light" are probably holes in the shutter curtain. The best way to check this is when there is no film in the camera. Since it is a IIf, I don't think the back swings open, so you probably have to try a different way. Take a flashlight, and shine it under the camera where you load the film...hopefully there will be enough light spill behind the shutter to show you if there are any holes. The holes will look like little bright points of light. If there are, it is a problem. Replacing the shutter curtain can be very expensive. The other fix would be to take liquid electrical tape and carefully apply very small amounts to cover the holes. Then you need to wait 24 hours for it to cure, so that it does not gum up the shutter when you wind it. Remember, there are two shutter curtains, so you need to check both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Oh, I forgot. For the meter, Quality Light Metric in LA will repair the meter and install a new selenium cell in it. They are very friendly and do a great job...very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 A CLA is in order (if you want to get another 50 years of service from it). However, Sherry K. doesn't work on screwmount bodies. I think DAG is the best SM shop from what I've read. Sherry will work wonders on old SM lenses though. Once you get the loading issue down, these are great shooting cameras. These and a few rolls of Tri-X pan,= serendipity. After it is working right again ,I would think that shooting "Grandpa's" camera would be a thrill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 We tend to bandy about terms you might not be familiar with. CLA means "clean, lubricate, adjust". The selenium cell in the meter uses light energy to produce electricity. It requires no battery. The downside is that it is less sensive in low light than more modern meters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Selenium meters degrade more with exposure to light than time. The selenium meters in my Contaflex II and Minox B are both 40+ years old, yet they are quite accurate. Good decision on keeping the camera. It's a brick, and in a pinch is probably just as good for hand-to-hand combat as taking pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 The IIF was Leica's finest flower. Nothing's rivaled it since. It's well worth major investment to restore...hundreds of dollars. Unfortunately the meter is self destructing...it's just the nature of the beast. Your IIF is a treasur. Your AE1 is lucky to be functioning and has limited value into the future. That's like comparing a 1999 Hyundai to a funky 1951 Mercedes. Which will be of more value in fifty years years? Which serves you better today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicia_rovel Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 you will enjoy using it and you can buy modern relatively inexpensive cosina voigtlander lenses to use with it. i have a IIIF with both Leitz and CV lenses. the drawbacks of the small viewfinder can be overcome with auxilliary viewfinders which come with the CV lenses. just get a modern light meter to use with it or use the "sunny 16" method. also check out the auction site for a small orange filter that goes over the rangefinder window to imporove the contrast. it's nice that you want to keep it after all the trouble your grandfather went to to hold on to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_doyle Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I inherited a IIIf/Summarit back in '98 from a great uncle who bought it new from the PX in '52, it was mint (save the engraving...) in the velvet box with brown wrapper etc, but needed a CLA and lens cleaning. It has been a good friend since (though it required an adjustment in '03...), John Van Stelton (Colorado) did the first round and someone who's name escapes me did the second, he is in North or South Carolina I believe and is a SM specialist.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 A keeper! Compact, accurate and great fun! Get it seen to.. Kinderman in Toronto, Canada purchased all the Screw Mount camera and lens material and parts from Leitz/Leica. The Leicameter if working is very close to the B/W color spectrum, thus very accurate but not very sensitive! My selenium meters on the M-3 still work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajabbi Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Try This: S.K.Grimes Camera Repair 23 Drydock Ave Boston MA 02210 617-951-1480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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