THANK YOU

[sliu]

Dear friends of Classic Cameras Forum,

<p>

I have been a passionate participant of this forum since I "joined

the club with a Kinaflex". Encouraged by you, I made photographs and

post them in a crazy rate during the past few months. I thank you for

taking time to read and comment about them. Although I ususally don't

reply to your comments in words but you know I do reply in images.

And I am grad to see this "contagious fever" being spread over the

community and many people start to use classic cameras taking non-

trivial photographs with passion. There is no reason to stop

the "disease".

<p>

But it is time for me to take a break and enjoy the unphotogenic hot

summer of New York City in my cool air-conditioned apartment. I will

come back in a few months with snow pictures. If you miss my posts,

please take your time to enjoy this long list of my burst of

photographic passion.

<p>

See you in a few months.

<p>

S. LIU

<p>

<ol>

<li>July 27, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00D1Sh">Michael's Ikoflex:

Trash (Composition study II)</a>

<li>July 26, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00D0cu">Michael's Lunch

Box: Almost Perfect ...</a>

<li>July 26, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00D0Lg">QL 17: Public

Place</a>

<li>July 25, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Czvo">Holga 120N:

Capoeira (160NC + Weston W-1B Flash)</a>

<li>July 24, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CzQE">Yashica-Mat: Band

(New Velvia 100)</a>

<li>July 24, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CzPy">Holga 120N: A Hot

Summer Afternoon in the

 

Park (New Velvia 100)</a>

<li>July 23, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cyoe">Kinaflex: Kids</a>

<li>July 22, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CyHa">Crossprocessing:

Velvia 100F</a>

<li>July 22, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cy9J">Yashica-Mat: Studio

Portrait of Al</a>

<li>July 21, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CxYN">Yashica-Mat:

Summer</a>

<li>July 18, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CvGb">Kinaflex: A French

Camera's Bastille Day in New York</a>

<li>July 17, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cu6W">Rolleiflex:

Fishing</a>

<li>July 16, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CtY6">QL 17: 1 Hour

Photo ;-)</a>

<li>July 15, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CtIV">Made in USA

(actually, New York ;-)</a>

<li>July 15, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cst9">XA: Dancers</a>

<li>July 14, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CsKg">QL 17:

Williamsburg, Brooklyn (Revisit),

 

B&W.</a>

<li>July 13, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CrpX">M7 versus QL 17:

Williamsburg, Brooklyn (

 

Revisit)</a>

<li>July 13, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CrpT">QL 17 versus M7:

Williamsburg, Brooklyn (Revisit)</a>

<li>July 11, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CqPr">QL 17: Summer

Evening, Washington Square Park</a>

<li>July 10, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cpca">QL 17: Street

fair</a>

<li>July 10, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CpOe">QL 17: Back to

35mm ;-)</a>

<li>July 7, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CnjM">Rolleiflex:

Subway</a>

<li>July 5, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CmME">Care to see some

fireworks? ;-)</a>

<li>July 4, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cljy">Rolleiflex:

Nathan's July 4th ;-)</a>

<li>July 2, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CkbV">Rolleiflex: Some

NYC street cliche</a>

<li>July 2, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?

msg_id=00CkVo">Rolleiflex: "Shakespeare in the Park" ;-)

</a>

<li>July 2, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CkSd">Rolleiflex: COME TO

OUR MAGNIFICENT, MAGNIFICENT STOOP SALE!!!</a>

<li>July 2, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Ck83">Al's Rolleicord

III: Williamsburg,

Brooklyn</a>

<li>July 1, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Ck5U">Seagull/Haiou:

Water Dance (Afterword)</a>

<li>June 30, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CjRU">Seagull/Haiou:

Water Dance</a>

<li>June 29, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Ciie">Rolleiflex:

Portraits of a young man (and his father)</a>

<li>June 28, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?

msg_id=00Ci3l">Rolleiflex/Kinaflex: Friends</a>

<li>June 26, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?

msg_id=00CgOd">Rolleiflex/Kinaflex: The camera man ;-)</a>

<li>June 26, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CgLA">Kinaflex: Coney

Island USA presents ...</a>

<li>June 26, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CgKR">Rolleiflex: Coney

Island USA</a>

<li>June 25, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cg3J">Kinaflex: Ruby's

Bar (revisit)</a>

<li>June 24, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CfJx">Holgaroid: Last

Image</a>

<li>June 23, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CeYb">Holga + Polariod

85: 6 Negatives</a>

<li>June 22, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Ce6H">Holga 120N: From

B&H to the subway</a>

<li>June 22, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cdz4">Holga 120N:

Subway</a>

<li>June 22, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CdkD">Rolleiflex: Street

fair</a>

<li>June 21, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CdKf">Seagull/Haiou:

Portraits of an old man</a>

<li>June 21, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CdAd">Seagull, Haiou, ???

</a>

<li>June 20, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CcIK">Holga + Polariod 87

(ISO 3000): Outdoor</a>

<li>June 18, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CbQn">CE's Brownie

Hawkeye: Night.</a>

<li>June 18, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CbOO">CE's Brownie

Hawkeye: Subway</a>

<li>June 18, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CbKU">CE's Ansco

Rediflex: Street Snapshots</a>

<li>June 18, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CbHa">CE's Franke Rolfix

6x9: Flushing Meadows-Corona Park</a>

<li>June 18, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cb03">Holga + Polariod 87

(ISO 3000): Indoor no flash</a>

<li>June 17, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Cadf">CE's Argoflex

Seventy-five: Film Disaster :-(</a>

<li>June 17, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CaUS">CE's Brownie

Hawkeye: First test roll.</a>

<li>June 16, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Ca3I">CE's Franke Rolfix

6x9: First test roll (all 8 frames ;-)</a>

<li>June 15, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CZJr">Rolleiflex:

Photographer at Work</a>

<li>June 15, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CYxf">Rolleiflex: Trash

(Composition Study)</a>

<li>June 14, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CYO4">Rolleiflex:

Woods</a>

<li>June 13, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CXmV">Holga: Sunday

Morning, Chinatown</a>

<li>June 12, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CWtL">Holga: Puerto

Ricans</a>

<li>June 10, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CVly">Rolleiflex vs.

Rolleiflex</a>

<li>June 10, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CViT">Kinaflex: The Color

of Flatbush Ave. ...</a>

<li>June 10, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CVaC">Richoflex: another

borrowed camera ;-)</a>

<li>June 9, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CUdk">Flowers in B&W</a>

<li>June 9, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CUJJ">Rolleiflex: Museum

Mile (Color)</a>

<li>June 8, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CUIi">Rolleiflex: Museum

Mile</a>

<li>June 8, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CU2b">Rolleiflex or

Hasselblad?</a>

<li>June 6, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CSYR">First Saturday

Night (Non-Rolleiflex version)</a>

<li>June 5, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CRmd">What can't I do

with my Rolleiflex?</a>

<li>June 5, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CRiE">Rolleiflex: First

Saturday Night</a>

<li>June 5, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CR93">Rolleiflex: Red

Hook</a>

<li>June 2, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CPmA">Rolleiflex:

Three</a>

<li>June 2, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00COzN">Rolleiflex: River

to River</a>

<li>May 30, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CNDv">Rolleiflex: Monday,

2005/05/30</a>

<li>May 28, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CM4n">Rolleiflex:

Queens</a>

<li>May 28, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CM3a">Rolleiflex:

Different Style (No Color, No Vignette ...)</a>

<li>May 28, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CM2x">Rolleiflex: First

Trip to Manhattan ...</a>

<li>May 27, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CLHp">Kinaflex: Thursday,

2005/05/26</a>

<li>May 26, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CKcO">Rolleiflex: The

Color of 5th Ave. ...</a>

<li>May 24, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CJHP">Rolleiflex:

Downtown Brooklyn</a>

<li>May 24, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CJFx">Rolleiflex: Photo

Studio</a>

<li>May 23, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CIUL">Kinaflex: Color of

Spring</a>

<li>May 23, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CIBf">Rolleiflex:

Landscape</a>

<li>May 21, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CH2C">Rolleiflex: From

Krikor's Photoshop (NJ) to Al's Photolab (Brooklyn)</a>

<li>May 20, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CGWp">Kinaflex: Coney

Island (off-season)</a>

<li>May 19, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CFib">Kinaflex: a summer

afternoon walk in the park ...</a>

<li>May 17, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CEDT">Pinhole: St.

Patrick's Cathedral</a>

<li>May 16, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CDBo">Kinaflex: Brooklyn

stoop sale</a>

<li>May 15, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CCma">Kinaflex: Fabulous

5th Avenue Fair, Brooklyn (5/15)</a>

<li>May 14, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CC4k">Kinaflex: first

trip to Manhattan ;-)</a>

<li>May 12, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CAl7">From Holga to

Kinaflex</a>

<li>May 9, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C8UJ">Holga: Some old

pictures (last Thanksgiving)</a>

<li>May 7, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C744">Kinaflex: block

party and Yashica A ...</a>

<li>May 5, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C5iT">Polaroid Pinhole

(hand made): Self portrait (hand held) and others</a>

<li>May 3, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C4C2">Pinhole: Fire

Hydrant</a>

<li>May 1, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C23D">Kinaflex: Sakura

Matsuri, Brooklyn Botanic Garden</a>

<li>April 29, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C1JY">Pinhole: The

photography people</a>

<li>April 29, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C1JM">Pinhole: Union

Square</a>

<li>April 29, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C1JG">Pinhole: Pizza</a>

<li>April 28, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C0di">Kinaflex: recent

B&W</a>

<li>April 24, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BxcC">My WPPD</a>

<li>April 24, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Bx31">Pinhole</a>

<li>April 19, 2005:

<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Bu4f">Join the club with

a French TLR ;-)</a>

</ol>

 

 

[andrea_ingram]

Thank you for giving us so much enjoyment and keeping us enthused and inspired. Have a good break. I for one look forward to your return post haste!

[mskovacs]

Keep both eyes open, and a TLR viewscreen at chest level. Have a good break.

[xenotar28]

Enjoy your rest, Sam. The way you've covered The City with your cameras, you deserve a break. Look forward to more postings.

[john_shriver]

Sam, I can tell from your street pictures that you're a person who loves the people of your city. It shows, your pictures are of you interacting with them.

 

(Of course, the weather today is so much nicer you might change your mind...)

[grahams]

Sam - don't stay away too long - by the time there's snow in NYC, I'll be suffering from "Sam Withdrawl" syndrome and may get very crotchety...bless you!

[harry_zet]

sam as much as i loved your pictures, one question is still in my mind: where

did you take the time, to shoot, develop, scan all those stuff?

[thanz]

Man, what a list! You have inspired many here to do one thing.......get off our butts

and shoot. Collecting older cameras is nice but using them is alot more fun!

 

I have always been entertained by your images, especially the angles and choice of

subjects, I sometime wonder if I came to New York if it would be as interesting as

your pics are ;-) . Before I came here I was toying with the idea of getting a TLR, your

posts cemented the idea and now I have three.

 

Thanks for stoking the fire Sam, stay cool!

 

Todd

[andrew_lee2]

You won't be away long ;)

[miztli]

Sam, thanks a lot for sharing your vision. I will miss your pictures. I hope that your rest gives you energy to resume sharing your work.

[mdanger]

Will miss you. danger

[andre_reinders]

Enjoy your break - I will keep shooting my TLR with you in mind.

[mdcarma]

THANK YOU, for your vision of the color and vibrancy of the city.

THANK YOU, for the inspiration to get out and shoot.

THANK YOU, for the encouragement for my mediocre snapshots.

[TomHildreth]

More self-promotion. A lot of your people don't know when you've been had.

[mskovacs]

Interesting language being used here: "been had", "your people". I can't say I like what this forum has been turning into of late. The pissing contests are spoiling the mood for me in a bad way.

 

Here is a man that is a proficient shooter and active participant that produces photos using classic TLRs that some people enjoy or find provocative. What exactly is the problem?

 

Can we just get on with our lives please?

[andrew_lee2]

<i>More self-promotion</i> <p>

More sour grapes.

[cenelsonfoto]

*shaking head sadly*

[TomHildreth]

Technical criticism of the images made with these old cameras is right at home here. Lens performance, shutter speeds, size, weight, film type- all of this is a good fit in the classic camera forum. There are other more appropriate forums to take up the artistic aspects of the images, to heap the resultant praise and to question the artistic quality. All of this has happened here, however. That seven of the posts were made with a post-1970 camera goes unnoticed in the quick deluge of superlatives. I have no desire to criticize the man's work. Neither do I care to join a cult.

[rs1]

Sam,<br>

Thanks for putting up that list. I think I missed a few of your early posts. <br>

Have a good break and hope you return soon. To me, it has been a great pleasure and an inspiration to view your work.<br>

Best Regards,<br>

Rajiv.

[xenotar28]

"Technical criticism of the images made with these old cameras is right at home here"

 

We like this forum's mix of ideas and photographs. It makes for an interesting place to visit. Even you do. Perhaps your cynical observations are correct, perhaps not. We like Sam's work and feel no reason to think he has been stringing us along. But even if he did, his promotion has encouraged people to post their own photos in Photo.net, and acquire classic equipment for their pleasure. I would consider that beneficial. We have no need to discuss how many angels can dance in the bubbles of a Tessar, and generally skip gratuitous sniping over the artistic merits of posted work. The truth is: we have balance and a spirit of collegiality. Some of the members even get together over a beer to discuss classic cameras. This must be galling to the over regimented and the bored.

[thanz]

From the "about this forum" section: "The forum is focused on the practical use of these cameras rather than collecting them."

 

How much more practical can you get than actually using them, as Sam has shown? Many times with obscure relics that send one off goggling for more info, I had never heard of a Kinaflex, much less having seen pictures taken with one.

 

What Sam has done is present many examples of what different classic cameras can do (through his eyes), he has inspired many to dust off a classic and go out and use it, he has added some interest to a forum that needed it( how many times can you discuss the difference between a compur and prontor shutter?...yawn!)

 

As far as cult status goes.....chill out and drink the koolaid man.

 

Todd

[vivek iyer]

Sam,

 

I will be looking forward to your return. In the meantime, I will book mark this thread in which your have summarized your prolific and sunbstantial work to look at, study and learn from (no none of the stuff you have posted is suits any of my "style"-whatever that may be. But this does not prevent me from appreciating something different).

 

Had I been living around your neighborhood, I would have visited your exhibition- no, I would have been a volunteer poster boy to stick/distibute promotional pamphlets about the exhibition of your work.

 

Have a pleasant break!

[cenelsonfoto]

George, Todd, Vivek - spot on.

 

See you when you have time, Sam. Best wishes.

[roger_smith4]

Who else is going to post pictures to fill in the gap?

[claudia__]

enjoyed your enthusiasm and your posts. looking forward to your return. ciao!