maestro logos Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/241680 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hall1 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 "The Zeiss Hollywood 28/2" - such a precise moniker. Does the guy mean the Distagon made for the Rolleiflex SL2000/3000 series? And why call it Hollywood? (Somehow I don't think he means the 28/T1.9 cine lens for the Arri.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_zet Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 impressive pictures. i can imagine good old fred, shooting the same roof for years just to prove that one lens is slightly better than the other. nobody ever asked robert capa or alfred eisenstaedt if he had tested his lens before using it. crap IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_mcallister Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 >Test: Leica 28/2.8R vs. Zeiss 28/2 vs. Canon 24-70/2.8L< How'd the Leica or Zeiss test out at 24mm? How bout 35mm, 50mm and 70mm? It's like testing a Hummer up agins a coupla Caddylacs, goin up an down you're driveway, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathaniel_pearson Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Harry, why such bile about a simple lens test? Yes, it's a roof and not a soldier getting shot in the head -- it's kinda hard to get the latter to hold still for three different lenses, especially if one wants to test across various apertures. Some folks like to make technically informed decisions about equipment they're choosing, and tests like this -- taken with the usual salt grains about trial and sample variation -- can be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_ilomaki Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Lens tests- Leice vs Zeiss vs Canon "The narcisisim of minor differences". There are some people who swear they can hear the differences in sound between a vacuum tube amplifier using a vintage Mullard tube vs an American RCA tube, and would charge some naked emperor $100 each per tube more for the difference. In the recent thread of photos taken by the soldier after WWII, has anyone complained about any technical aspect, or negated the value of them because they were taken with an "amateur" camera? NO! Cheers Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_fleetwood Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 I can hear the difference between Mullards and RCAs, but I still have cheap Russian tubes in my Bandmaster and Pro Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Hmmm - a prime f/2.8 lens beats a prime f/2 lens and an f/2.8 zoom. This is a surprise? I'd expect practically ANY 28 f/2.8 to win this contest - Leica, Zeiss, Canon, Nikon, Pentax, you-name-it. The 28 f/2 Zeiss is likely the Distagon made for the Kyocera/RTS system (probably the same optics as the Rollei 3000 version). I had one and the blur in the test looks familiar. I don't have a clue what the "hollywood" reference means - probably an ignorant tester who assumes all Zeiss f/2-ish lenses are the same lens (just as many people call any Zeiss 180 and Olympic - even though there have been at least 4-5 Zeiss 180s over the years and only the first had any connection to the Olympics (1936). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red dawn Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Hi harry, did u actually click on the link? it helps, cos then u will realise the test wasn't done by the owner of the site, but by the pple in the forum he runs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswick_john Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 "Hmmm - a prime f/2.8 lens beats a prime f/2 lens and an f/2.8 zoom. This is a surprise? I'd expect practically ANY 28 f/2.8 to win this contest - Leica, Zeiss, Canon, Nikon, Pentax, you-name-it." - very true and it's good to keeep our expectations and prejudices safe from the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabrielma Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 <i>and would charge some naked emperor $100 each per tube more for the difference.</i><BR><BR> The well-dressed ones would get a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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