laika Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Hi all, I've been asked at work to help setup a camera for taking macro shots of jewelry and its not doing what I think it should be able too. We are using an EOS 350D(Rebel XT) with a Sigma 105/2.8 EX DG Macro lens and a Sigma EM-140 DG Macro Ring Flash. As this camera is going to be used by several people (non camera people) so I want to set it up so its easy to use. From similar work I've done years ago I would set the camera in aperture priority mode @ f32, the camera detects the flash and sets to its sync mode and the camera shuts down the flash when the correct exposure is reached, tweaks to the exposure are done via the exp comp dial. Now with the above equipment the camera is mixing the flash with timed exposures in everything but Auto mode. Its as if the flash isn't totally compatible with the camera.. I come from a Nikon background so apologies if its the dopey users not the equipment. Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Even with best lenses, diffraction may appear at very small apertures like f/32. I'd suggest f/11. Happy shooting, Yakim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_linney Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 The camera is trying to balance ambient and flash. The best solution is to set the camera mode to manual and set aperture to f32 and the shutter speed to the flash sync speed - the camera will then manage the flash output to get the correct exposure relying on the flash out put only not trying to factor in ambient light. Incidentally, the aperture setting gets remembered when you switch back to manual mode after using a different mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul - Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Have you tried changing Custom Function 3 from "0" to "1"? This will force Av mode to use 1/200 when a flash is used.<p>With CF3:0, Av mode will choose the shutter speed based on ambient light so the background (unreached by flash) will be properly exposed.<br>With CF3:1, the forced 1/200 will properly expose the flash-lit subject at the possible cost of an underexposed background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Like Yakim, I don't recommend using an aperture of f32. At 1:1 reproduction with a lens like the Sigma (which extends to achieve close focus), that will be an effective aperture of something like f64. You will unavoidably get image softening due to diffraction, no matter how good the lens is. An f11 setting will translated into approximately f22 at 1:1, which is more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 <p>You come from a Nikon background, so perhaps this is how Av works with flash in the Nikon world, but not in the Canon world. Av with flash essentially uses ambient light for exposure, with the flash used for fill.</p> <p>M is the best solution to a lot of EOS flash problems. Want to control shutter speed and aperture? M. Pick any shutter speed and aperture you want, and flash will be used automatically as the primary illumination source or as fill, depending on how much ambient light gets past your choice of shutter speed and aperture.</p> <p>The answer to almost any EOS flash question you could possibly have will be found <a href="http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/">in this extensive article</a>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laika Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 Many thanks all, the CF tip and a few other tweaks have just about got it sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 In order to tweak exposure where flash is the dominant source of light, you will need to adjust flash exposure compensation - changing the aperture (as with regular EC) will simply alter the depth of field or degree of diffusion blur, since flash output will automatically adjust to compensate unless you use manual power settings on the flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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