ymages Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I like B&W landscape photographies and I can imagine that it will be great before shooting to see the world Black and white is there any ? glasses ? eyes-filter ? to see directly in B&W to shoot in B& W i feel a bit blind because of colors perception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendonphoto Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 To convert from color to B&W requires an active (electronic) process. Perhaps an EFV camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_sullivan Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Ansel Adams recomends a Wratten #90 viewing filter. And he says (paraphrased)....Although it doesnt completely elliminate the colors it reduces there effect. Plus, also, you should only hold the filter in front of the eye for brief durations, as the eye will adapt to the filter in time and the colors will return quite quickly back to almost mormal. I've never used one. Shoot a lot, a whole lot, and eventually your mind's eye ignores the colors......to some degree only, but it does seem to work better and better the longer you shoot B&W. Somehow your mind starts to know how it will look after a lot of practice at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 Thomas do you know a link where to find that filter if Ansel Adams says so .. i must try it .. i am absolutly found of Adam's photos thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peufeu Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 You learn by looking at the spotmeter bargraph inside your camera, then you get used to it, and just by looking at something you can say "this is medium gray + 1.5 stops". Takes a bit of getting used to for saturated colors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 sodium vapor steet lights at night. kinda cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dai_hunter Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 First see this discussion: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CFbR&unified_p=1 But if you are still interested see this: http://www.photofilter.com/tiffen_viewing_filter.html OR THIS: http://www.srbfilm.co.uk/index1.html Download the price list PDF Page 16 of the PDF price list / Page14 of the printed brochure SRB MONOVUE CONTRAST VIEWING FILTER The human eye/brain combination is selective about what we actually see, and we ignore much of what we look at. Film is not so versatile, and photographic results can be disappointing due to distracting shadows or lack of contrast. THE SRB MONOVUE CONTRAST VIEWING FILTER enables the photographer to assess the scene as it will appear on film. Areas of shadow and poor contrast will be emphasised, allowing corrective action to be taken. The filter is for visual use only, and is supplied in a metal mount in a rubber eyecup to exclude extraneous light. The mount accepts a drop in filter disc. It has a short metal handle drilled for a neck cord (not supplied). USING WITH BLACK & WHITE Gives an impression of how colours will look relative to each other on B/W film. The filter does not eliminate colours, but suppresses them visually to their relative tonal values. It emphasises areas of high or low contrast and exaggerates shadows. USING WITH COLOUR Allows improved composition in assessing highlights, contrast, and shadows. SRB MONOVUE ..........................................................................19.95 PAGE 14 -------------- Lastly, before you buy, you can try this for free: Take two pieces of processed but blank C41 film from the film leader, or one piece and fold it in half, it functions quite nicely as a viewing filter. It isn't exactly the same colour but it will give you some idea of the effect and help you decide if you would benefit from buying one. Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 thanks a lot Dai Hunter fotr your precise and long answer i see that they also use framing tools .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmo Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 wtf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindsor Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 There is trick on the 20D. Under the parameters you can select the B&W mode. If you select RAW as the capture quality then the effect is essentially just to display the picture on the LCD in B&W. When you convert you can convert into colour and then use any of the many techniques to convert to B&W. You get the advantage of the B&W preview without losing the power of colour capture. You can even fiddle with the filter settings. Doesn't help you seeing before you take the picture but does help with visualizing how the tones relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Sheldon has it. Sodium lights cast a baleful yellowish orange over everything, making the area around them virtually monochrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted July 24, 2005 Author Share Posted July 24, 2005 AndrewI have not understood what Sheldon said with the sodiun ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted July 24, 2005 Author Share Posted July 24, 2005 Alistair thats a good idea .. and of course i shoot only in RAW mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Erick, if you have yellow streetlights where you live, they provide a pretty good approximation of B&W photography through a yellow filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted July 24, 2005 Author Share Posted July 24, 2005 ok i must try ... thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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