laurenm Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 I have an idea of what I'd like to do with this shot and wonder if anyone else sees what I do. More importantly, is it doable visually and technically? I'll wait for some responses before pocting my version :)<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmahler5th Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 I don't think it works visually, the view of the bride is cut off by the men standing in front of her. Unless you like looking at backs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Dunno if it's really doable- but you could cut out the one guy blocking the view, and the woman he's blocking, and insert just about any other photo in there. The light is real even, and there's nothing else close to that area to cast shadows or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry schaefer - chicago, Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 You can experiment just about any way you choose. I suspect you will vertically crop in on the half face of the bride and the guy in front of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 This is why digital can be so dangerious at first. There are so many things you can do, or think you can do, that are actually a huge waste of time in the end ... so you sit there doing exactly that ... wasting time in front of the computer. Fortunately, digital also has a delete key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueform Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Still shoot weddings on medium format, just use the 7d for candids, so can`t advise on photo shop. Try a drop of a angel dust ! James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_thomas___banned_from Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 It's not a good picture. I'm afraid you'll have to bin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Why are you trying to salvage something from that shot at all? Marc is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenm Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 It was from a friend's wedding and I don't have nearly as many shots to deal with as if it were a job so I guess I was just taking time playing. I was about to delete without question when I decided to zoom in just to look at their faces and started wondering (what Larry said). Though that was when I realized the zoomed crop would need possible substantial work. This is the idea I was playing with (ignore the fact that I had sharpened it which makes it worse) In one version I tried her eye was real blue and thought it was kind of neat. Should I still just forget it?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimie blue Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Bravo Lauren, really like it "smooth" or not...Well you took a shot that by all accounts was not very visually anything and found the focal point and crop! Nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imgnepc Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 If you can't smooth it out, it'd look good in a sepia tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenm Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 this was pre-sharpening, though I was trying to sharpen the eye and bring the color out, not sure where I was in playing that I had done that.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Use it to learn from and actually shoot one like that next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrin ballman www.crossl Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 ditto Marc and Al's comments. Especially Marc's about too much time being spent. Even if you don't have that many shots too work with - if it's a real struggle to pull something out of an original - that should be a hint. Because you can go so many directions with digital options it's easy to get caught up in trying new things. That will burn off hours real quick. The first step though is recognizing when it's better to hit delete up front...saves you time and will up your quality in the long run. Regarding this particular image yes, if you had shot it a little tighter and had the full eye showing you would be on to something.....the best part is that next time you will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmichaelc Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Learn to see this potential through the lens, during the moment etc. This comes with being part of the moment. A 200MM would have captured this vision at the point of capture. Post work should be to enhance what you have. Quality and creativity should be acheived at point of catpure IMO. I would leave it as you took it and see/acheive it next time through the lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_brown2 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Like your attitude Lauren, in my work often you have to be creative and take what you have or have left!!!!!!!!!!!!! (reconstructive surgeon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul moshay Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hi Lauren, Finally got back to this site. Your massive cropping would be OK if the brides full eye showed, but as is I'm afraid it doesn't work. Moving a bit to the left would have made that possible, otherwise it is just the backs of people. Use the exersize to learn from and you will have gained experience. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Every one goes through this when learning PhotoShop ... it's responsible for a lot of the abominations done in the name of creativity. When I first started digital with a Canon 30D and basic PS it was like I had never learned anything in the conventional darkroom ... looking back on it afterwards it was clear that some of the stuff was simply atrocious... and a huge waste of time that would have been better spent learning digital basics like use of flash and all the other stuff. The purpose of a forum like this is to save people from wasting time by sharing what was learned the hard way. But, maybe, you just have to learn it the hard way for it to be meaningful. BTW, I am not against cropping, even severe cropping. It's the reason I use a mega- megapixel digital camera which allows me to do it when I wish. One has to keep in mind the limits of the gear they are using and act accordingly. Lauren, getting into the habit of thinking you can save it in PhotoShop is a BAD habit. Break that habit as fast as possible and concentrate on mastering the basics ... which is difficult enough in it's own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenm Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 Thanks everyone, I will look to do that shot some day in camera. Had I been the pro at the wedding, I would have gotten some tighter shots at time of caprure, but I was only "practicing" anyway (with the blessings of the pro) who had four guys in front of me at this point. Marc, I will take your advice especially with my current gear and stop even zooming to take a look. You are right I have other things to be doing. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_bain1 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Be strong. Bin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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