frank granovski Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 <img src="http://www.8palm.com/nose1.gif"> the best portrait lens i own is the 90mm minolta m. it has deep bokeh and it is sharp. my cl 40mm is just as good but it is not a portrait lens. I guess it is somewhere in-between a wide-angle and a normal. will my 40mm summicron-c leica leitz lens and my 90mm f4 m-rokkor minolta lens fit and work properly on the fabulous new ikon? are there any issues? answers, please. is the cl's shutter better than the ikon's shutter or is it the other way around? <img src="http://www.8palm.com/loveit.gif"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hall1 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Last time you posted (more or less) the same question, I gave you this address: info@zeissikon.com Unlike the Leica forum, they did not (or were not expected to) bite, I suppose. This time, make sure they get your tradmark icons (no pun intended), even a pic or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 <i>the best portrait lens i own is the 90mm minolta m</I><p> Frank, didn't you just get this lens about a week or so ago? How about posting a portrait you did with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul t Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Frank, why do you keep asking the same questions, without doing a quick search here, or going to the Zeiss website? Are you bored? Lonely? Time on your hands? And what time is it in Vancouver or wherever you are?<p> Your lenses should work perfectly, bar some issues with the framelines they bring up. The 90mm lens will bring up 85mm framelines, I believe, on the Zeiss, which is close enough. There are no 40mm framelines on the Zeiss; some people use the 50mm framelines and crop loose, others file off a lug on 40mm lenses and use the 35mm framelines. I'd say the 40mm can work pretty well as a portrait lens. It's very close to our normal human field of view. It's a slight compromise using the 40mm when the framelines don't match exactly, but some people here, notably BDS, get great results doing exactly that. For more about filing the bayonet lugs, use the photonet 'search button". And for more about the Zeiss Ikon, go <a href="http://www.zeissikon.com/ camera.htm">http://www.zeissikon.com/camera.htm</a> And if you're generally bored and want to read more about cameras, it's always worth consulting <a href="http://www.cameraquest.com/"> Stephen Gandy's Cameraquest site. </a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frank granovski Posted June 15, 2005 Author Share Posted June 15, 2005 I'm bored because Horst has my CL; and I don't know for how long. Okay, Paul. Thanks for that info---the 40mm brings up 50mm frame-lines, the 90mm brings up 85mm frame-lines. So I can't use these 2 lenses with the Ikon unless I want to cut off heads and feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul t Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Well, with the 85mm you might cut out the tiniest bit of toe and the odd unruly curl. really it makes no practical difference. If you use the 50mm framelines with the 40mm lens, you'll get their hats, and their snowshoes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank granovski Posted June 15, 2005 Author Share Posted June 15, 2005 Wow! Gimme that pic! That looks just like me, from my hair and my smirk to my furs and my pristine CL. It's 2:10 a.m. here in lovely Raincouver. Oh, and I did e-mail Zeiss but they never e-mailed me back. ;*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Re: Frank: "Although I feel his pulse, I dare not say he lives." -- Sir Thomas Browne, Religio Medici, 1642 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Frank As the ZI has been delayed until August how can you expect anyone to know the answer to your question in June? Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 by looking at the spec sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Jeremy Spec sheet don't tell everything, and they certainly don't mention whether or nor you can fit [with no issues] the 20-30yr old lenses mentioned by Frank, who can, I assume, also read spec sheets! Why don't you read the spec sheets and tell Frank what is[or not] stated? Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Portraits (of two or three people) can be done well with a 40mm lens; the 90mm lens will work on a one-person image. While you are getting your CL fixed, any chance you can locate a second CL body so your talents won't go stale using the pair of lenses you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeos_386sx Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 RE: Monkey C's picture... That's Master Granovsky in disguise for shooting Canadian bears and streetwalkers. He's so cute they come right over to lick him on the cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Sigh. <p> Yes Bruno, ya the man! There is a very good possibility that the following equation is indeed true! <p> ZM mount ≠ M mount <p> Ya never know! Zeiss designers may be asleep at the table! Cosina's too! They're really all idiots! <p> Idiots, all of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socke Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Anybody read Alan Wilders report? The 50 Planar focused perfectly on his MP. As long as Zeiss didn't design the ZI to be incompatible to their own lenses, it should be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Volker, the last thing this forum needs is a voice of reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icuneko Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I used to have a Leitz-Minolta CL. New--better than pristine. I used a 40mm f2 Rokkor lens on it a lot. For single-person or self-portraits it was fine when I even cropped out the head and shoulders for enlargement. It is very sharp and with Pan X film the enlargements were still fine. Also useda Minolta 90 f4 (actually a Leica Elmar C). It is very fine for portraits, and has nice, smooth bokeh/OOF. You'd do well sticking with both of these lenses. Since they are M mounts, I'd assume they will work just fine on the yet-to-be-released ZI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Jeremy Never heard of the focus problems with the Konica 'M' mount lenses? Things happen which are not on spec sheets. Double sigh ! Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Volker I agree with what you say, but Frank was referring specifically to the 2 CL lenses? Regards Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank granovski Posted June 15, 2005 Author Share Posted June 15, 2005 Yes, I meant with my 2 CL lenses. I saw 2 other CLs but they were both a way over-priced and one had a broken lever. I don't plan on buying another CL, I can't locate a decent M3, M2 or M4, and the Ikon interests me. So I'm back using my FM2T and the 135mm E lens, for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Cat Taking A Huge Dump In A Fur Jacket Pose?? C'mon Frank, Pleeeeeeeeeae! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank granovski Posted June 16, 2005 Author Share Posted June 16, 2005 "jacko beats rap" in small caps, meaning.... <img src="http://www.8palm.com/freak7.gif"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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